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posted 01-29-2004 09:28 PM         

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hi again, i have a question, when i got my pomeranian male puppy the breeder told me he would be a toy size. but now he is 2 months old and growing fast!
faster than i thought. he is 2 months old and 4 pounds, does anyone know at what age pomeranians stop growing and now that my puppy is 2 months old and 4 pounds how heavy he is gonna be when he is eight or nine months old? thanks: Gil

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posted 01-31-2004 07:49 AM         

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Hi there I didnt get my pom until she was about 5 months. She wieghed 5.5 lbs and has pretty much stayed at this wieght since we got her. She is a little over a year now so I would assume she is fully grown. Hope this helps a little. I would think though that at two months your guy is gonna get bigger maybe a little bigger than you wanted. I do know puppies constantly grow at this age, at least all the puppies i have had.

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posted 02-01-2004 01:46 PM         

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At 2 months old...4 pounds is a VERY LARGE pomeranian. The smaller breeds tend to triple in size from what they are at about 2 months (8 weeks) old. That isnt completely accurate...but it is a rough estimate. Myself and my parents have three toy dogs between us. At 2 months old Pom #1 was 1.5 pounds, Pom #2 was 2.5 pounds, and my chihuahua was 8 ounces. Pom #1 is now 5 pounds....5.5 if shes fat. Pom #2 is 8 pounds...and the chihuahua is a little over 2 pounds. So the chihuahua more than tripled in size and he still has a few more months to grow (hes 9 months). The other two poms are full grown at those sizes. I would expect a 4 pound 2 month old pomeranian to be in the range of 12 to 15 pounds. That is still a small dog but it is a very large pomeranian.

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posted 02-24-2004 10:00 AM         

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My 12 year old female toy pom is 4.5 lbs. I would think that your pom will be get much larger.

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posted 02-25-2004 09:15 AM         

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thanks to you all, now my pom puppy is 3 months old and he weighs 6.4 pounds which is very large, i dont know how much longer he is gonna grow and how large he would get? now i know that the breeder lied to me by telling me he would be a toy size.
we are all so upset and i really dont know what to do about it? we all love him and eventhough he bites everyone so hard i dont want to give him away!
please tell me what to do? thanks, gil

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posted 02-25-2004 09:51 AM         

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Why are you so upset? He's a big pup- big deal. He's still very small compared to rest of the dog population. Based on what small beagles and pugs weigh, I estimated that my pug/beagle mix pup would grow to about 15 pounds- well, she's 26. That doesn't make me upset though, or make me love her any less! Is there even such a breed as a "toy" pom? I know they are recognized as a mini-version of the spitz breed, but I never heard of a toy pom in and of itsef, which reinforces the fact that breeders selling to you with a promise of a "toy" size are full of s$#*. Unless it is in the actual bloodline, such as a toy poodle, it's very difficult to predict how big a dog will get-- you can breed two small parents and hope for the best, but you can't really predict to any degree of certainty that all the pups will be small. A reputable breeder should have informed you of that, so you were prepared.

As for the biting thing, this behavior is very common in puppies, they are teething and want to chew on everything! He should eventually grow out of this, but there are a number of things you can do in the mean time to discourage this behavior, such as "yelping' when he does bite you to let him know that he is hurting you, and then praising him lavishly when he stops.

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posted 02-25-2004 10:28 PM         

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4.5 is an average pom size. Well the size a pom SHOULD be. I bet the average pom probably weighs closer to 9 or 10 pounds because all of the poor breeding choices made out there. Poms should be 3 to 7 pounds but are often larger. Thats a huge pup you've got on your hands....its gotta be a mix. Half keeshound maybe? Or american eskimo or something?

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posted 02-26-2004 10:54 AM         

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ya, i really love my puppy but i always looked for a small size because i live in a small house and cant take care of a big dog!
yesterday i took him to Petco and showed him to the groomer and she also told me he may be a pomeranian mixed with American Eskimo .
if he is mixed with American Eskimo or the otherone that you mentioned how big is he gonna be? now he is 3 months and weighs 6.4 pounds please let me know, thanks a lot guys GIL

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posted 02-26-2004 10:58 AM         

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By the way i forgot to mention Pomeranians are supposed to be toy size dogs and the largest is 7 pounds. i have seen purebred pomeranians, they have short feet and hands and i saw one that was 10 years old and weighed only 5 pounds, mine has long feet and hands and is not pure. gil

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posted 02-26-2004 03:22 PM         

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Does he look more like a fox or a teddy bear? My poms look more foxy but are around 5 lbs. I have seen some weighing 10-11 lbs but were taller that the standard. As mistress said it all comes from bad bredding so he may not be a mix just poorly breed.

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posted 02-26-2004 06:28 PM         

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hi 3dogsihave, i think you are right its just bad breeding, today i showed him to a trainer and she also told me the same thing: he is a pomeranian.
he has the foxy face, i'll even be happy if he is 11 pounds! do you know how large is the largest pomeranian?
by the way how do you post pictures i tried and could not do it. thanks, gil

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posted 02-27-2004 10:44 AM         

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Largest pomeranian is 7 pounds. Thats what the largest is SUPPOSED to be however. I have a coworker who has two chihuahuas that weigh 15 and 20 pounds. (and they are supposed to be smaller than poms) So thats just an example. My guess was what..18 pounds on your pom? Probably 15 to 18 i think. American Eskimos look very similar to poms so there really is no way to tell if this breed is in your dog at all. They can weigh anywhere from 6 pounds all the way up to 35 pounds. I can assure you that your dog will NOT get all the way to 30 pounds however. Your pom *could* be purebred pom. Some breeders breed their dogs larger because it is less of a health risk than breeding toy dogs. It is very difficult at those tiny sizes so they breed larger dogs with larger dogs.

Good luck with your pup...I know all too well about the size issue. I got a standard poodle that I was promised would be a large dog....she never even made it within 10 pounds of the MINIMUM weight the breed is supposed to be so I always doubt that she is purebred. Lots of people wont understand our concerns but when you know exactly what kind of dog you want and something like this goes wrong...it can be very upsetting. How about you share your dogs extra weight and size and I'll put it on my poodle? =D

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posted 02-27-2004 01:24 PM         

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thanks mistresskela, you are great. i am just hoping that he wont get larger than 12 pounds. so i am glad that you understand how important size is to people with small houses.
i also have a chihuahua and he is one year old and weighs only 3 pounds. i wish we could do that, you get the extra weight of my pom and give it to your doggy so mine would stay small!!!! my pom does not have very big paws, they said if the paws are not too big he will not get heavier than 15 pounds, that is still too big for me. anyhow keep in touch thanks a lot: Gil

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posted 02-28-2004 08:00 PM         

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To MistressKela:

I saw ur post and I dont think its totally acurate when u told her the pups gotta be a mix just because its on the larger side. Pomeranians are getting much larger now a days, its getting rare to see a breed standard pom. my aunt had one that was the size of an american eskimo and he was pure. My best friend has a 9month old female weighing in at about 10 pounds. Its sad but true, poms are definatetly getting larger.

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