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Samsintentions
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From:Columbus, Tx ,USA
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posted 12-30-2003 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
Hundreds and thousands of Premarin foals and mares are being shipped down from Canada as we speak. All the labratories and collection plants have lost their contracts to produce any more of the female hormone drugs collected from the urine of pregnant mares. Yes for all you ladies out there taking hormones, they are made from Pregnant mares urine. After the foals are born they strip them from their mothers and are sold for under $100 to kill buyers. The mares are all flooding down on trucks and have been sited in Wyoming, Montana, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisianna...and many more states. Most of the mares are registerd, and bred back to registered stallions.
Please we need everyones assistance if you have room!!! You can adopt a baby, yearling, or young mare, gelding, stallion for under $500!!!!

I know we can't save them all, and most will go to slaughter since there are so many, but if we can each just save one....
I'm trying for a baby, my mother is pending on a Perch/Clydes mare, who's bred back to a black Perch stallion. Broke to drive and very pretty.

Please Help!!!

Email me for more info.
Mare-majic@excite.com

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Casey
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posted 12-30-2003 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Casey     Edit/Delete Message
I have known about this problem for a long time. My sister rescued a PMU baby from a local ranch that goes to auctions and saves them. We heard about the mares that are up for sale and was trying to get the mother of the PMU baby.Luckily the mares are selling out fast!Thank you for posting this because no one else seems to care!

Happy Trails,
Casey

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Samsintentions
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posted 12-30-2003 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
Oh tell me about it. If I could, I'd take them all, but I can't. Thats why we really need to spread the word.

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tjinaustin
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posted 12-30-2003 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tjinaustin     Edit/Delete Message
WHERE WOULD I GET THE INFO TO ADOPT?MY GRANDPARENTS HAVE A 1500 ACRE RANCH IN HALLETTSVILLE TEXAS CLOSE TO YOU (MEMBER FROM COLUMBUS,TX)THANKS TRACIE

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Samsintentions
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posted 12-31-2003 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
Hey!! I'm really close to you then, I live in Rock Island, not even 20 miles away. our camp house is right down the road across from the football field!
this is one web page, there are also alot of them in the Navasota auction, and in Magnolia.

sunnydalefarms.com

They have some awsome mares.

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tjinaustin
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posted 12-31-2003 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tjinaustin     Edit/Delete Message
I TRIED TO OPEN THE WEB-SITE WWW.SUNNYDALEFARMS.COM AND I COULDN'T!CAN YOU PLEASE SEND ME ANOTHER.THANKS,TRACIE

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Samsintentions
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posted 01-02-2004 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
go to yahoo, type in PMU Mares and Foals in Texas.

You'll get like 100 ranches here in Texas that are getting them and holding them for Texas residents to Adopt. Most all the mares are in foal or have a foal at side.

I'm looking at a line back dun filly, she's 6 months. and nly $150.00 with AQHA papers.
She's in Gladwatter.

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tequiladog31@wmconnect.co
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posted 01-22-2004 07:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message
dose anyone know where these horses are in montana i live in helena montana. if there are any in montana plese let me know.

Thanks Rhonda

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Samsintentions
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posted 01-23-2004 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
go check the web page.
WWW.SUNNYDALEPMUFOALS.COM

There's mares, pregnant mares, geldings, stallions, foals, yearlings.....all kinds!

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Danecrazy
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posted 01-28-2004 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danecrazy     Edit/Delete Message
Samsintentions,
I looked at this site and their are no foals there. What site did you find your foal on? I want to get a Pmu foal this years as I was not able to last year. I would like to get a foal this is Reg but will look at others. I need one close to me.Thanks

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Samsintentions
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posted 01-30-2004 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
Danecrazy, they don't always have foals, you have to check weekly. They go fast. Its the mares that are about to drop that need the most help. They are most ALL in foal. So its a two in one package....
You can also try HopeforHorses, and do a standard yahoo search.

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meistrx
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posted 02-07-2004 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meistrx     Edit/Delete Message
Thousands of horses from shut-down PMU (pregnant mare urine) farms in Canada and North Dakota are finding new homes in the United States, but at this time, few are winding up at slaughter houses, according to slaughter plant managers.

Dick Koehler, general manager of the Beltex plant in Fort Worth, Texas, said that his firm is not in the market for PMU horses at any time because many of them are draft types that do not fit the plant’s needs. He said that no PMU horses had wound up at Beltex since the cutbacks in Canada and North Dakota. Beltex slaughters about 600 head of horses per week and has been operating on a normal schedule.

A contact at Dallas Crown, located in nearby Kaufman, Texas, said that “a few PMU horses” arrived at the plant some time back, but that they were the only ones. Those horses, the person said, had been purchased in Canada by a buyer. Dallas Crown slaughters about 250 head of horses per week and has been operating at normal levels.

The chief slaughter plant in Canada is Bouvry Exports Calgary Ltd. Claude Bouvry, president, said that his plant is not interested in the thousands of PMU mares which went on the market because they are late in their pregnancies and the plant does not slaughter mares in that condition.

He said that virtually no PMU horses had been sold to Bouvry of late. Bouvry slaughters between 240 and 260 horses daily and is operating on a normal schedule.

The third slaughter plant in the United States is Cavel International, located in DeKalb, Ill. It is being rebuilt in the wake of a fire and should reopen this spring. The plant will have slaughter capacity of 100 horses per day.

Prices paid for horses by the slaughter plants fluctuate almost daily, depending on supply of horses and demand in the European marketplace. Generally speaking, prices for slaughter horses are lowest in October when many owners sell their animals rather than face winter feed costs. Prices traditionally are highest in January and February when fewer horses are offered for sale to the slaughter plants.

The increased number of PMU horses available in North America is due to a reduction in the number of prescriptions being written for hormone replacement therapy in women, and because of last summer’s federal approval of a lower-dose hormone replacement medication. As the result, demand for mare urine dropped and Canadian-based Wyeth Laboratories, a major processor of pregnant mare urine, instituted a mammoth cutback in the number of pregnant mares being used in the program announced in October 2003.

When the PMU program was at its peak, there were 437 farms with 47,000 mares “on line” and producing pregnant mare urine. The number of mares has been cut to 11,700 because less urine is required to produce the lower dosage estrogen replacement therapy.

Wyeth Laboratories instituted a program to pay for transportation and health test costs on displaced PMU horses sold in the United States. As a result, the horses have been sold and trucked to many areas. Almost none of these horses have wound up at a slaughter plant, according to information from plant managers.

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meistrx
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posted 02-07-2004 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meistrx     Edit/Delete Message
Premarin(stands for pregnant mare urine)
At one point, thousands and thousands were going to meat-markets, who ship horse meat to third world countries (starving children etc.)and Europe, but there has been a substantial cutback. And no, they are not just stripped from their mothers after they are born. The mares are bred in the spring and then hooked up to urinating collectors in stalls (they are required to get a certain amount of exercise). Then they are let out to pasture in the spring until they foal. The babies are weaned at about 3-4 months and sold. The cycle repeats.
Premarin farms have been decreased by about 2/3. Many premarin farmers take pride in the foals they breed. You can find quite nice, registered babies with good bloodlines.
And no, not most of the babies go to slaughter houses. A lot of the babies are sold at auctions to people looking for cheaper foals.
My family bought two foals, a grade paint mare and a registered AQHA colt. They're doing wonderfully right now and we expect for them both to be excellent riding horses. You should see the butt on the colt!
Anyway, they have found an alternative to the drug Premarin and that's why there was such a substantial cutback.
If you're interested in adopting a PMU foal, go to FoalQuest.com. They're by far the largest organization I know of.
I'm not trying to justify the Premarin horse industry in any way, but please check the facts before you make such a commotion! You're going to give someone a heart-attack!

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Samsintentions
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posted 02-09-2004 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
Where did you get your info from? Not all of them are that nice...Have you visted any locations?????

THe mare we aquired, stood in a stall 11 months out of the year, she foaled, was bread back in foal heat, and reapeated, she had 1 month of rest!! In a small pasture with MANY other mares..... To say in the least she was fed, a gallon of whole oats...wow....

You can see the distress on these horses, its not all candy coated like you think. Yes some treat theirs better than others...but others didn't.

As for the sending the meat to "starving" countries...THe majority was sent to England, London, France, and Paraguay...for delicasy (spelling???) Resturants used it to make $$$.
IF they sent it to all the third world countries, do you honestly believe that the starving childern recieved it?? The governments overthere hold everything, the funds we raise to send over there...go to the rich....Like Castro and all the others, we try to help, they collect the goods and keep it for themselves and not give it to the ones in true need.

I'm not justifying anything, nor saying that its ALL like this. BUt from my studies and observations and research, these are the facts that I've come up with.


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