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curious unregistered |
posted 11-07-2003 04:20 PM
Are there ways to test a pit other than fighting? and do they allways let it go to death or until one dog quits?...and then what do they do with the quiter? IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member  Posts: 373 |
posted 11-07-2003 11:25 PM
The only real way to test a dogs gameness is to test them with another Pit Bull. They are not fought to the death. A test isnt ment to kill dogs. Its ment to see how game they are. If the dog quits then it does, if it doesn't why would u want to make it die or have the other dog die? Sometimes in matches dogs have died from injuries sustained. I suppose in a few tests dogs have died, but I think that is the neglegence of the owner when they don't pick the dog up and make the test keep going. Sometimes you have seen enough and the dog has taken a lot of inury and you figure it is game there is no need to put it on the very verge of death and then not be able to save it. Curs are culled, the point is to breed game dogs not quiiters. IP: Logged |
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Casey Member Posts: 35 |
posted 11-08-2003 11:51 AM
Why would you fight them!Its just wrong!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 11-09-2003 05:32 PM
Casey-The poster never said they wanted to fight them, they were asking how you test them and if that was the only way. The reason is to see which is game and should be breed. Its actually kind of right because its what they were bred to do. It would be wrong to say fight 2 poodles or try and train a Pit Bull to retrieve ducks. IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-09-2003 06:07 PM
Im sure this will tick some folks off,but I kinda feel like these folks who so villify dogfighting may own a nice dog that looks like a pit,but they have missed out on a whole amazing aspect of the breed if they have never even seen a dog rolled,and if they are breeding these dogs based on looks and not what makes a pit a pit,it is a shame.Sure dogfighting may sound terrible,but I have witnessed countless fights myself,and have only seen one dog die,because he ran around the pit screaming for his life and was culled.That also may sound awful,but it no different than what is done to hunting and herding dogs that dont perform,for the purity of the breed.Such practices are what create the personality and behavior specific to any purebred dog.The casual pit owners dog owes its intense,smart,people friendly personality so special to the breed from such practices and it is good there are still 'true' pit people out there.If you got your dog from a lineage of pits that havent been fought in several generations,its not a pit at all,its an am-staff,plain and simple.To the growing population of dogfighters who are in it for the glory or the money,who are fighting their dogs with little or no rules,and who are letting their dogs be killed in the ring,and who are taking home the dogs that survive and chaining them up in their dirty backyards and then fighting them the next day,you are the ones giving pits a bad name!Pitbulls have been fought in this country since the 1800's,and have only recently become such an issue.These are the same people who encourage their pits to be man-aggressive,and it is them who should be banned.Dog breeds are a manmade creation,and every fibre of their bodies is about being what function they were created to perform,The pit bull wouldnt even exist without its fighting history.Im not saying yours or even most 'pet' pitbulls should be fought,but that they should come from dogs that do.If dogfighting were stopped today,the pitbull would become unrecognizable from the dogs we have today.Look at the ads for pits that 'are not bred for ANY illegal purposes".These dogs are beautiful to be sure,but they are becoming larger,with a long thigh for the impresseve looking muscle instead of a short thigh for leverage and endurance.Their heads are getting bigger and bigger and I suppose after a few decades will not look like real pits at all.Just look at the irish setter of the show ring who is so tall and short-winded that he couldnt hunt if he wanted to,or the poor english bulldog that is so smooshed he cant even breath,let alone bait bulls.You owe your wonderful house dog to its fighting history,and are not a real 'pitperson' if you condemn it outright,without knowing anything about it! IP: Logged |
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qna unregistered |
posted 11-09-2003 06:39 PM
If you got your dog from a lineage of pits that havent been fought in several generations,its not a pit at all,its an am-staff,plain and simple............I take offense to this blind statement by inger. i have owned several amstaffs that were much more than something pretty to look at! IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-09-2003 08:09 PM
When the AKC decided to register pitbulls it didnt like the term 'pit',and they changed it to american staffordshire terrier,and they began to be bred for looks rather than fighting ability.This alone makes them 2 different breeds,they even look different!Once again,a pit that comes from non-fighting lines could never be called a pit,really,I mean the term 'pit' speaks for itself.Im not saying am-staffs arent great dogs,but if youve got one that is really game,then it probably doesnt mirror the breed standard...What do you mean "they were much more than something to look at"?Did you fight them?Im not talking about a dogs being a good gaurd dog or amazing athelete,Im talking about a dog being game to fight!I wouldnt call a labrador whos lines hadnt been hunted for generations a real retreiver either! IP: Logged |
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desertAPBT Member Posts: 51 |
posted 11-09-2003 09:06 PM
Ign is that short for ignorant??? If the lineage of your dogs has not been fought in many years they are Am staffs? That is a damn dumb statement. I know many people who have dogs from dogmen who are no longer practicing that does not make the dogs Am Staffs. Boy oh boy IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-09-2003 09:19 PM
No theyre not technically am-staffs,but since staffies are pits that have been renamed and are being bred for different reasons(they come from the same original lines)I.E.not for fighting,and there are pits being bred now from non-fighting lines,isnt it sort of the same difference,other than the name?Holygod,I wasnt saying they were PAPERED am-staffs,just that the means and the end were the same! IP: Logged |
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ReDnOzEr New Member  Posts: 7 |
posted 11-09-2003 09:50 PM
True Pit, Ok what is the description of a true American Pit Bull Terrier. And if u or any one can post a pic. Im in kind of a dilema towards the description of one. I recently visited a site of a breeder. He owns a very stalky,muscular big headed Pit. Which he breeds and sells its pups named LOBO maybe some have seen the website. Im curious to know the true physical identity of APBT. That breeder somewhat says that his dog is one of the best representations of the breed. The dog is beautiful so are his mates. Im just curious. IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 11-09-2003 10:58 PM
Is this the "lobo" dog you're talking about, rednozer? http://muglestonspitbullfarm.com/males/lobo.html If so, that dog is NOT a good representative of the breed, he's sloppily built, overweight, and disproportional. The true APBT should be strong, but athletic (the person who made that site was bragging because his dog can climb a sliding board ladder 10 times, my 10 YR OLD dog can easily do 5 times that without breaking a pant. They should not be so short, stocky, and musclebound that their agilty, wind (how well they breath, which has a lot to do with their endruance), and endurance is compromised. They should also not be so rangy that their strength/agilty is compromised by their height. There are some correctly built APBTs from the past on this page: http://apbtconformation.com/historical_apbt.htm They also have more pages on APBT conformation if you check the rest of the site. [This message has been edited by goob (edited 11-09-2003).] IP: Logged |
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qna unregistered |
posted 11-10-2003 12:56 AM
When the AKC decided to register pitbulls it didnt like the term 'pit',and they changed it to american staffordshire terrier,and they began to be bred for looks rather than fighting ability.This alone makes them 2 different breeds,they even look different....explain how they look so different?...ignergehl there are some very game amstaffs i have personaly witnessed this! IP: Logged |
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qna unregistered |
posted 11-10-2003 12:59 AM
igner to use blanket statements like no amstaffs are game is so wrong! just like some ignorant people say "all pitbulls are will bite people"...blanket statements are very misleading! IP: Logged |
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justice82003 Member Posts: 48 |
posted 11-10-2003 05:49 AM
That Lobo dog is just sick. IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-10-2003 04:32 PM
Am-staffs dont look a WHOLE lot different,but they tend to more uniformly fit a standard,because they are being bred to fit a standard,not to have the proportions of a fighter.Pitbulls come in a hundred shapes and sizes,even the showdogs,if you look at show quality staffs,they will all tend to have that perfect blockhead,and perfect square build.once again,the akc does not like fighting,and would not care if their dog was game,and im not sure that am-staffs would be allowed in a professional fight(Not one put on by punks),as any other breed is considered a cur.Your staff MAY be game,but were its parents?,is there any chance its pups would be? IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-10-2003 04:38 PM
okay,I just looked at that picture of 'Lobo'and that is not what I would really call a pit either,that dog would be useless for fighting,Its own skin would get in the way and it would tire out quickly.That is no staff either!,Maybe they need to call the dogs that look like that something else!(I do like that look though,secretly). IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-10-2003 04:51 PM
Hey,when did I make the statement"NO am-staffs are game?"I only said that gameness didnt mirror the breed standard,the akc couldnt care less how game a staffie is! IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 11-10-2003 05:40 PM
Has anyone check out the page Goob posted. Realizing that Buck was a PIT grand champion and Register Of Merit Producer? He produced many CH & GR CH fighting dogs. Being Bolio/Tombstone bred sired by Patrick's Little Tater out of Red Lady ROM. Did you know Buck won 7 contracted matches and beat GR CH Sandman in 3:17 mins? Even if you don't agree with dog fighting doesn't mean you should lie and deny the history of the breed. Even those breeding conformation dogs are breeding dogs to the standard set by dogmen using the best conformed game dogs. Dog fighting has been outlawed but people should realize its part of their history and makes up what the Pit Bull is today. The traits they possess and the reason they may be dog aggressive. That Lobo dog is very badly conformed and not a rep of the bred at all. IP: Logged |
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ReDnOzEr New Member Posts: 7 |
posted 11-10-2003 08:18 PM
Yes that was LOBO the pitty i was talking about. I dont know if any one looked through the site. His offspring are also very stalky. They strive to produce large headed stalky pits. Maybe they hav ecreated a new breed. I also read through the site u linked descrbing the true APBT. Im still reading learning things from it i didnt even know. Thanks ALot
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justice82003 Member Posts: 48 |
posted 11-11-2003 04:17 PM
I don't think you can trully test gameness without fighting, however I think a combination of Weight pull to test stength, and agility to test well, agility, is a start. Both sports also require a certain amount of determination. IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-12-2003 06:23 PM
You cant test gameness,ANY way but fighting!Those cinder blocks,or sacks of dogfood being pulled arent tearing at your dogs throat,there is no fear involved.As there is no animal on earth that fights like a pit,a contest against another breed or another species wouldnt count either! the dog has to have the opportunity to become afraid for its life,to show whether it will fight anyway!that is game!I read once that some guy cut the feet off his dog to show that it would still fight,gross,yes,but,THAT is game!(that was in the 1800s,by the way) [This message has been edited by ignergehl (edited 11-12-2003).] IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 11-12-2003 06:50 PM
Cutting a dogs feet off is stupid. That is a bunch of crap, there is nothing to really prove by that. Its obvious these dogs would fight without their feet, why make them do it? Some will fight blind, or 3 legged why do that 2 them on purpose. IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-12-2003 08:35 PM
I read that in the book 'american pit-bull terriers'by Todd Fenstermacher,t.f.h. publications.The exact quote reads "A game dog in this case is one that will continue the battle until death.There are many stories of these early bulldogs going back at the bull with broken legs,stomachs ripped open,and even one story about a breeder who cut the feet off his dog to show she was game enough to still bait the bull on stumps." Now Im not saying that everything in books is gospel,and yes,it does sound ridiculous,but I had another book that i loaned to a friend(never returned) about pits that related the same tale.Maybe the dog was already mortally wounded and he wanted to show the extremity of her gameness to make her pups and other related dogs look better.who knows.I just wish that the folks on this site would quit hollering "ABSOLUTELY NO WAY" about things they havent heard about or things that sound unlikely.A person of real intelligence knows there is always something they dont know,and that anything is possible.I dont think that cutting off a dogs feet is much weirder than making them fight bulls and bears for fun! IP: Logged |
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desertAPBT Member Posts: 51 |
posted 11-12-2003 08:59 PM
I don't think you can trully test gameness without fighting, however I think a combination of Weight pull to test stength, and agility to test well, agility, is a start. Both sports also require a certain amount of determination. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` No there is only one way to test gameness and you win a trip to the penn when you are done. These other things test drive! IP: Logged |
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justice82003 Member Posts: 48 |
posted 11-13-2003 04:14 AM
hay ignergehl, and desertAPBT your right, I learn a little more every day!!! IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 11-13-2003 08:22 AM
jesus christ thats kinda rough!!! cutting off a dogs feet!!! yikes!!! in the 1800's though i believe it. they were burning witches and putting red a's on people, why not cut a dogs feet off and send him off to go fight a bull....does it tell the breeders name, or dogs name in the book? i'll just call him satans nubby. [This message has been edited by benny boy (edited 11-13-2003).] IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-13-2003 12:43 PM
SATANS NUBBY!!!LOL!no,unfortunatly it doesnt give names or anything else,I wish ol' Todd had footnoted that paragraph 'cause he was bound to have gotten it somewhere.Maybe hes got an e-mail,im going to try to find out because now I want to know too!That reminds me,some friend used to exercise their dogs by tying their dogs to a hook in the bottom of their pool ,so a dog could swim in place,then tie another bulldog within sight outside of the pool.The dog in the pool would swim HARD for hours to try to get that other dog!It may not be a complete game-test,but it showed how willing that dog was to try!Those dogs ended up so lean and muscular they looked like works of art! IP: Logged |
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smoke420 New Member Posts: 3 |
posted 11-13-2003 01:01 PM
HEY QNA.I HAVE 2 REDNOSE PITBULLS AND THEY DONT FIGHT,I HAVE NEVER FOUGHT MY DOGS.AND I GOT SOME BAD *** PITS.FEMAIL/MALE THE PAIR AND EACH TIME I BREED THEM THE PUPPIES COME OUT PURE REDNOSE NOT ANOTHER BREED THAT IS KIND OF DUMB.WHO ARE YOU LISTENING TO? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 11-13-2003 01:15 PM
hey smoke, did you look at the dog they were talking about? it doesn't really look like a pit at all, well you cann't really tell what it would look like normally bc it is so overweight! they weren't saying that if you breed two pits you magically get another breed. got any pics of your dogs? how old are they? IP: Logged |
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neek Member Posts: 291 |
posted 11-13-2003 01:15 PM
I don't think that tying a dog on the spot in a pool would have made it try and get to the other dog. I know that if I did that to my dog, she would be swimming to get out, or to save herself from drowning! I seriously doubt whether they could last for hours either. IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 11-13-2003 01:27 PM
i think thats a good idea, you know they make little doggy life jackets. i bet a deep game dog would go for hours. i bet they were chisled like a statue. hmm...too bad dogs aren't allowed in our apartment pool,lol my dog roxy likes to pull me on my longboard, we go everywhere. her shoulders are getting really developed. i want to learn some new ways for her to work out. IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-13-2003 02:12 PM
I would really like to see the written definition of what "starting s***" actually is!I mean,before you come on and and say nope,my dog wouldnt swim like this,so it doesnt happen!Are you absolutely certain of that?Have you not heard of 'baiting'your dog?These types of training methods are as old as bulldogs themselves!Its standard practice to entice a dog in a treadmill with another pit tied out of reach,to get it to run for hours.The swimming method is very commonly used as well,but you dont have to beleive me,a poor ignorant!Again to quote richard stratton,pg.245 of the book The American Pit Bull Terrier,"a variation here(on swimming)is to put the dog in the water,secure the rope from his harness to a stationary underwater two-by-four and then utilize a dog on shore as "bait".the dog will swim mightily in place for an hour or more.Again,the dog must suspect that he will never get to his adversary,but the sight of him there fuels his efforts"of course,my friends used a hook,not a 2 by 4 so,i guess you will say that this proves nothing! Look, im not trying to tick you off again,but I do have the right to defend my statements! [This message has been edited by ignergehl (edited 11-13-2003).] IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-13-2003 02:19 PM
hey BennyBoy ,ive got some footage of some dudes in new york using their bulldogs to pull them on their skateboards,They call it Pitbull surfing,and it isnt perfected,but it looks like a lot if fun,these dogs have some really nice musculature as well!Have you put of any pics of your dog 'cause I would like to see! [This message has been edited by ignergehl (edited 11-13-2003).] IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 11-13-2003 03:35 PM
ignergehl>> I just visted the "Why??" Thread and I know some people were harsh on you before but it seems you are over sensitive and think people to be picking on you. I never said no way, or that I didn't believe you. I said it was crap/stupid because it is. Cutting off a dogs feet proves nothing. I wasn't attacking you and I know you didn't do it, but somebody who did it really stupid. I was saying my opinion. it doesn't prove the dog is anymore game than any other. Some of these dogs fight crippled and even blind dogs fight. If it has stubbs or nubbs then its like the Golden I saw on animal planet that still plays and does whatever. They can do most things well with it, why would it not a game dog be any different. Is what I was trying to say. Being blind is a real impairment and dogs still scratch, fight and win, at least game dogs do. IP: Logged |
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neek Member Posts: 291 |
posted 11-13-2003 03:37 PM
I wasn't starting anything. Again, it is a difference of opinion. I personally wouldn't do that to my dog because I happen to think that it is not necessary. Yes the treadmill method is widely used but I hardly see what tying a rope to the bottom of a pool to make a dog try harder to get to another dog would accomplish. Yes it might develop better muscle strength and stamina, but so do springpoles, weight-pulling and things like that.  IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 11-13-2003 03:43 PM
Neek Well if you believe it or not its true. We have a treadmill and swim tank. Actually the swim tank is my friends and I've only used it a few times, but I let the dog swim for a long time then when it gets tired I bring out the other dog and the one in the swim tank gets a second wind and RUNS VERY HARD. Then I switch them. Maybe a pet bull can't maybe some could. Maybe because they aren't game and willing, and maybe because they aren't in well enough shape. You are reffering to your own dog and I don't know what your dog is like, but you know her better than any of us here so if you think she wouldn't then maybe she wouldn't, but you can't know if you don't try. Two of my pits relly love water they swim leisurly in the pool, and also the swim tank. When another dog is put in front of them they go hard. If you seriously doubt they could last for hours then you don't know the game dog very well, if they can fight for hours bleeding and dehydrated running a mill or using a swim tank for a couple hours if nothing. If you looked at that confomation site it has GR CH Buck ROM on it and was matched with GR CH Sandman and it lasted 3:17 and Jeep and Homer went for almost 4 hours. smoke420 said Smoke I think you misunderstood what they ment. Also what makes your dogs so bad, that is the wrong attitude with these dogs everybody saying how bad their dogs are like they have some inferiority complex and must compensate with their bad macho dogs. "EACH TIME I BREED THEM THE PUPPIES COME OUT PURE REDNOSE" Yeah you think? Rednose is recessive so they can only come out red nose when you breed two red noses together. IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-13-2003 04:44 PM
I dont think either of my 'pet'bulls would swim after that other dog either.Only a dog that knew to fight and that wanted that other dogs blood would,im sure. IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 11-13-2003 05:31 PM
quote: "Rednoses" aren't exactly a breed, just a color of a breed (the APBT), but anytime you breed two APBTs together, you're going to get purebred APBTs. What these people were talking about is the APBT losing gameness over generations of not being bred for it (to be bred for gameness, the dogs must be tested for it by fighting), and how they feel that an APBT that's not game can't be considered an APBT at all, which is why they said they were like AmStaffs, which also haven't been bred for gameness for many generations (more than most APBTs, even non-gamebred ones).
quote: The swim tank... is it like a normal sized pool, or smaller, more like a bath tub? I've been considering building something for the dogs to swim in once the water outside is too cold for them, but have been drawing blanks as to how to make it. I'd really appreciate more information on what it looks like and how it was made. IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-13-2003 06:40 PM
the swim tank my friends were using was an actual below ground pool,with a eye-hook screwed into the bottom,and a shortened lenghth of airplane cable that attached to the backpeice on the dogs harness.It was a NASTY pool w/ducks and scum and all.Leave it to hillbillies... IP: Logged |
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neek Member Posts: 291 |
posted 11-13-2003 07:30 PM
Personally I've never heard of tying them to one spot, thats all I meant. It just seems a bit slack thats all. Why can't you just let them swim naturally? I hope that the dogs that are tied up have lifejackets to keep them afloat for hours. That would be better. My dog has never been swimming since I got her. I don't know if her previous owner did. I have never really thought about it. I do know that since I got her spayed four months ago, she hasn't put on weight because she gets vigourous exercise every night. I'm one of those people that don't believe in breeding dogs without being registered to do so, but I also don't like a spayed dog to just sit sround and get fat. I think that is cruel and it seems that most spayed dogs get health problems later on in life due to weight gain. I also think there is nothing wrong with leaving your dog entire as long as no dogs get to her when she is on heat. I know that some are prone to mammary cancer if they are not spayed but it is pretty rare isn't it? [This message has been edited by neek (edited 11-13-2003).] IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-13-2003 08:01 PM
if you let the dog swim naturally,it would come straight out of the water and attack the other dog!The point of the other dog is that the dog in the water swims so hard that it churns the water up and comes a bit up out of the water,and gets a sort of exercise that a leisurely swim couldnt duplicate!The owner stays nearby and wouldnt let his dog drown,he usually switches him off w/ the other dog.for the regular pit owner,putting your dog in a pool with a leash on it and then walking around the edges is more than enough exercise for a pet dog.He'll get an amazing physique fast! IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 11-13-2003 09:19 PM
Something like that would freeze up here, it has to be small enough to be inside, even if in a shed... Right now I'm thinking along the lines of those fiberglass containers, don't know what they're normally used for, but I know in some rural areas, they use them for chicken coops, holding grain, corn etc. I'm figuring that the whole thing will probably end up around 6'long, 2' or so wide, and around 2 1/2' deep. Those are just guesstimates though based on what I was picturing, so I honestly don't know what might turn out if I try to build one. It would likely be out in our unheated shed, so I'd also have to figure out some way to heat it if i was going to use it outside of the summer months, too. With my luck, I'll decide to build one, and neither of the APBTs will get near it :rolleyes
quote:We live on the water, so Goo's used to walking over it on the pier, walking by/near it, and LOVES boat rides, but doesn't want ANY part of swimming in the water. She'll do zoomies on the pier, wade in up past her belly on the boat ramp, even helps pull the boat over to the pier when we're getting ready to go out, and bounces back and forth between it and the pier until we're ready, but can't be convinced that actually swimming is any fun at all. If we're out in the boat and stop off someplace to swim, she'll stand on the edge and BARK!BARK!BARK! the entire time, then on occasion, gets frenzied enough that she tucks tail and hops in, only to chase down the nearest person, climb them, and perch atop their head/shoulders. For the longest time, I thought she couldn't swim (even got her a life jacket so she wouldn't drown if she fell over, lol), but she's actually a good swimmer when she doesn't have a choice  I still don't see her willingly getting into a swimming pool though...Here she is wading Out on the boat
quote: Spaying a dog won't make them get fat. Actually the reason MOST fixed dogs start to get fat as they age is because their owners stop exercising them, thinking that since they're older, they don't need it anymore. Goo is 10 yrs old, has been fixed for close to 10 yrs now, and has never been "fat" OR lazy. Sometimes she's been more fit than other times, but she's never been "fat" like some dogs I've seen. As long as you keep up a dog's exercise, it won't become fat and lazy when it's fixed. On the health benefits, intact bitches can get pyometra, a uterine infection that requires emergency spay and 3xs the $$ of a normal one, and there's still a chance the dog will die if the infection has gotten into the bloodstream. There is also some evidence that points to the risk of the dog getting mammory and a couple other type of cancers being lower in spayed dogs. IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-13-2003 09:39 PM
I think a livestock waterer would be perfect,one of those big black plastic ones.there is a suction-cup thing with a cable for human swimmers for the same reason,I dont remember where I saw it though,you could glue your attachment to the bottom, somehow,I guess. [This message has been edited by ignergehl (edited 11-13-2003).] IP: Logged |
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neek Member Posts: 291 |
posted 11-14-2003 01:54 AM
I love your dog Goob! She looks old but you can tell she has plenty of life left in her. I hope my dogs are still active at 10 years old. IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 11-14-2003 07:55 AM
is this a video you bought? or did a friend send it to you? pitbull surfing huh...thats great i never new their were other people doing it to. just when you think you're being original....lol. IP: Logged |
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ignergehl Member Posts: 174 |
posted 11-14-2003 09:37 AM
Actually,I taped it off a program about dogs a few years ago,I think it was animal planet,but I dont remember the show.The lead guy had a nice white dog named Thor,and the other dogs were his decendants.Anyway these guys would put these nice leather harnessess on their dogs,then they would sort of crouch on their boards next to the dog and hold on to the harness with both hands,then when the dog got going it looked like they got going really fast but the dogs didnt seem to be very specifically trained so they would run their owners off into puddles and stuff!looked like fun! IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 11-14-2003 03:11 PM
Goob- A livestock tank works great. Metal or plastic. Not the round kind the rectanglar kind with rounded corners. The guy I know built an A Frame above his then you hook the harness up to that. IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 11-14-2003 05:26 PM
I don't exactly live near any feed stores or the like (though we do have some family members who live out in the "boonies" and could probably get me one), and couldn't find much in the way of pricing through a quick search online... about how much would it cost to get a tank about the size I mentioned before and a heater? It would probably be next summer before I even try, as we have to tear our shed down before long and rebuild before we put anything else in there, but I'm just trying to get an idea... IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 11-20-2003 12:41 PM
okay, do these dogs look like they have been mixed with an english bulldog. i only say that bc they are so short and squaty, and their legs are bowed a bit. besides that his dogs good. www.woodspits.com let me know what you think. [This message has been edited by benny boy (edited 11-20-2003).] IP: Logged |
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neek Member Posts: 291 |
posted 11-20-2003 02:00 PM
I'm not sure. They are a little small in body size but I would think that if they were bred with bulldogs they would have an overshot jaw and more "bulldoggy" face. To me their faces look like pure pitbull so maybe people CAN selective breed for size???  IP: Logged |
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