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loves-da-pits Member  Posts: 43 |
posted 02-29-2004 10:59 AM
 
I have 2 APBT,named Reese and Amazing Grace, whom have never met a person they didn't like. But they are real killers. Yeah, that's right, KILLERS! They have destroyed practically everything that I own. I walked in the front door one day to see the dogs pulling my love seat out the back door. I have since replaced my furniture. They pulled off the cover to my spa and destroyed it. They tore down my patio umbrella by standing on the patio table. They have dug up full grown trees, bushes, and under ground plumbing. My yard has so many holes, it looks like the surface of the moon. I have one pair of jeans and one pair of shoes which I hide. Every time after one of these episodes, they look at me and smile like they have done something really good. Kind of hard to scold a smiling pit bull. My dogs are treated like spoiled children with toys and chews and sleep on beds of cedar at the foot of my bed. They have their own room now with their own furniture. Even though they have cost me hundreds of dollars in damages, I love these mean "Killers" and can't help but think how boring it would be not to have them. Even as I write this, Grace has chewed my new slippers. Gotta love them. IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 02-29-2004 11:59 AM
Those dogs have serious destructive behavior. It is not safe to let dogs destroy things. Sooner or later they could ingest a peice of something and it could be deadly. It could splinter and cut them or cause blockage. Don't tell me you serious leave these two dogs together when you are not home? You leave them unsupervised together!? Crate training would solve a lot of your indoor problems. Dogs should be crated when no one is home to watch them. They sound really bored tearing up the backyard. I've never heard of such destructive animals. IP: Logged |
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Deus Member Posts: 136 |
posted 02-29-2004 12:26 PM
All I know is if they wer my dogs they'd never see the inside of my house again! QUESTION: DOES THE WORD TRAINING MEEN ANYTHING TO YOU? At what point do you say gee my dogs have a problem, when theres absolutely nothing left for them to destroy? Well anyway better you then me! IP: Logged |
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chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 02-29-2004 01:20 PM
I'm on Dues with this one. lol I also agree with True-Pit - You had better get your dogs trained, (as they should be) so you dont' have to go through all this money. I don't know about you but, I ain't too waste. [This message has been edited by chickee (edited 02-29-2004).] IP: Logged |
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MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 02-29-2004 03:52 PM
Yes, do yourself and your dogs and home a big favor!! Invest in a good dog trainer ASAP!!! Maybe crate both of them while you are not at home until they are trained? If you don't nip this in the butt now, you will probably end up sick and tired of their behavior soon. (Honestly, I would have put their butts outside in a dog kennel) If you ever get to the point where you can no longer care for them due to their destructive behavior, and you have to place them in a shelter, absolutely NO ONE will want to adopt either of them and they will surly get euthanized! Pitbulls are already the hardest breed to place. Now with destruction of property added to the list and its curtains!!! Dog trainer ASAP!!! You and your dogs won't be sorry. Good luck! Susan IP: Logged |
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loves-da-pits Member Posts: 43 |
posted 02-29-2004 06:31 PM
WOW! Didn't expect the response. I guess I failed to say that my dog Grace is 6 months and Reese just turned 12 months. They are still learning right from wrong. This breed of dog is different from any dog I have had in the past as far as being distructive. But I did my homework and I knew what I was up against before I made the committment. I consulted the a behaviorist, and he informed me that APBT are "pullers" by nature,so channel the need to "pull" with more possitive activities.Any kind of corporal punishment is not an option. I would crate my dogs as a last resort where I thought there was no hope. My dogs will never be band to a backyard without being able to interact with family inside the home. I'm not a wealthy person by no means, but my devotion to my pits is more prevalent than the material things in life. I stumbled on this website and thought, what a great group of people there was who supported a breed of misunderstood dogs, and told what I thought was a funny story. In no way was I complaining or looking for a response.It was just a parable about two pit bull puppies growing up. These dogs are my "kids" and I would never think of turning them in to a shelter. I am a vet technician and an advocate for the abolishment of the greyhounds racing industry. If any one viewing my post disagrees with me, I apologize. Pit Bulls need to be recognized for a breed knowned otherwise than a calling card for violence. My Pits will never know nothing but the love of a family which they so deserve. May God bless the poor dogs that misbehave. IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 02-29-2004 08:11 PM
I didn't believe you were complaining or asking for advice, you seem totally uncaring about what the dogs are doing. Thats why I made it a point even more. You don't see anything wrong with your dogs habits. You did your research? This isn't unique to the breed of APBT. Any dog can become destructive and puppies especially. Some breeds like Shepherds will be prone to destruction when bored because they are a working breed and require lots of attention. I have APBTs they are not destructive terrors. I have one just turned 12 months who is a semi chewer (runs in the bloodline) and I'm now converting everything to steel. Including the dog house. The dog I have in now only destroys toys so can now only have them when supervised unless they are indestructable. She can be left without any problems. She is 16 months and has been this way since I had her. In which I always had her inside. None of my dogs have ever been destructive. They are APBTs. Try training and going to a different behaviorlist. This won't go away with age. This will continue even after the puppy stage and will only get worse. Your dogs are out of control. All dogs need discipline. I think thats whay everyone was trying to say. Be a responsible pet owner. [This message has been edited by True_Pits (edited 02-29-2004).] IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 02-29-2004 08:52 PM
Pit bulls are more by nature than just pullers, though it is true that they need positive things to channel their energy into (I'm not sure that I would say pulling is "negative" though). The others are right in telling you that it's unsafe for you to leave the two of them together unattended, all it would take is one little disagreement one day, and you could end up coming home to two dead or dying dogs. What are you doing to stop the dogs from engaging in these behaviors? Most of them are self rewarding (chewing up things relieves stress/boredom, digging holes the same...), and won't simply go away unless either replaced with other positive options or made to be unpleasant in themselves. They sounds like their incredibly bored and have made of these "games" to amuse themselves. How much exercise do they usually get a day? Am I right in assuming you're referring to crates as "capital punishment"? If so, you may want to do more research in that area, as crates (used properly, as with any tool) can be a big help in stopping established behaviors such as the ones you describe, as well as keeping dogs apart should they decide they no longer like each other. As others have mentioned, it is far more dangerous to allow dogs to destroy household objects, as eventually luck may run out and they'll either get into something that hurts them or eat a piece of something and end up with a blockage. As a vet tech, I'm sure you've seen dogs with blockages brought in for surgery, have you considered that that could be your own one day? It is far more dangerous and cruel to allow a dog to engage in destructive behaviors that could kill them than to crate or kennel them safely when you are away and unable to keep them out of trouble. IP: Logged |
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Deus Member Posts: 136 |
posted 03-01-2004 05:45 AM
True_Pits & goob pretty much covered it, but I will say that though am no expert on dogs in 30 yrs I'v never seen such destructive behavior from a house dog befor. It amazes me that anyone would alow this to go on in there home. Oh I have had a couple of TV remotes chewd on when left where the pup could get to it and even a shoe ot two over the years but nothing like what your talking about. I have to wonder how much of this behavior is a display of dominence. If your dogs dont have any respect for you or your home now what will it be like when they are adults?! Clearly the word NO! has no meaning to them as adults it may even trigger something even wors then simply destoying your home. Just something to think about wile your indulging your puppies. Keep us posted Ps: im fully aware that I will never win a spelling "B" [This message has been edited by Deus (edited 03-01-2004).] IP: Logged |
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GinaH Member Posts: 70 |
posted 03-01-2004 06:25 AM
While I do agree with what the others have said about getting your dogs trained, I do believe you love your dogs and sometimes as parents rather it be to our human children or animal children we make mistakes in parenting and sometimes spoil our children and let them take over the role of the "one in charge" I think maybe that's a little of what has happened here and with discipline this situation can be turned around. I wish you all the luck in the world and would love to see pictures of your babies.
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elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 03-01-2004 06:45 AM
quote: Don't blame this on their age. that has nothing to do with it. My puppy is 5 mos and he knows when he is doing something wrong. You are supposed to teach them young.
quote: Do you really think this story of yours is accomplishing that? I am not at all trying to be rude (many people think I tend to be a bit blunt) but your flippant attitude about this whole thing is going to get you and your dogs in trouble. It is not a big step to go from trashing your house to worse things. These dogs obviously think they rule the roost and have absolutely no respect for you. They are only going to get worse over time. How are you going to discipline to powerful dogs that could care less what you are saying and think they can do whatever they want whenever they want? Just something you need to seriously think about. IP: Logged |
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daddyfs Member Posts: 86 |
posted 03-01-2004 09:33 AM
boy, did you pick the wrong time and subject to be cute..lol!! these are serious people you are dealin with on this board.. tearin up your house.. come on.. im mean if you like it, i love it.. but you should really try crate training them.. even if you think they are too young.. training starts from the day they are born.. you gotta let them know they are doin wrong.. i bet you werent expectin that response huh!?! IP: Logged |
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chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 03-01-2004 09:39 AM
You are ultimately doing your dogs a dis-service for letting them get away with distroying everything in your home, instead of teaching them right from wrong. Whether you think it's funny or not, one day it will backfire in your face. IP: Logged |
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bullylove1 Member Posts: 173 |
posted 03-02-2004 01:38 PM
loves da pits I am sure you love your babies very much, as we all do. In fact, we all care about Pitties soo much we all try to help each other on this board to be better dog owners, even if sometimes it comes out as rude. Which no one meant to be. All I will say to you on the subject is that Pit Bull ESPECIALLY need to be better trained dogs than most. Not because they are monsters but because they are misunderstood by way to many people. Therefore we as Pit Bull owners need to do our best to prove society wrong. If you bring your doggies outside the way they are untrained now, you are proving to people how unruly they think this breed is. I don't crate my dog, she has full run of the basement, which I have made into her "dog run" it is completely puppy proof equipped with one of her beds, her blanket, her favorite chair, and her indestructable kong toy. This is all she has access to and she knows its her stuff, not so much fun to ruin your own stuff as much as it is to ruin mommys stuff is it.  Maybe you could try devoting a room to them. But, at the same time, you should NEVER leave 2 or more dogs alon unsupervised. No matter what the breed is. Some dogs that have not been socialized around other dogs don't know how to read doggie body language (which is soo important) and that's how fights can start. Good luck to you, and keep us posted with what you decide to do. We may sometimes sound harsh but we are all devoted dog lovers! Leslie ------------------ IP: Logged |
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