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Betta in a wine glass

Discussion in 'Fish and Aquarium - all types' started by 3_second_memory, Oct 12, 2004.

  1. 3_second_memory

    3_second_memory New Member

    Hiya,

    i recently purchased from my LFS a large wine glass fish bowl, does anyone know what i mean.

    It is to keep a fidhter fish in. I was told they dont like oxygena nd filter streams soprefere stagnant water as thats where they originate.

    Any way, i used to kp fighters in my 3ft aquarium, but theyd die so i got this wineglass. its,well i dont know how big, but it has volcanic rock in the bottom, a filter pad for small fish bowls, and a biorb plant.

    Is it cruel to keep the fighter in there?
    i put a minnow in to keep him company. he seems happy, and blows bubbles.

    theres no air in there.

    could i breed in that, with a female?

    any feedback would be great.
     
  2. Hooben

    Hooben New Member

    I have seen bettas in large tanks, and they do well. In order to breed them you would need a tank of at least 10 to 29 gallons. Bettas are able to survive in small cups of water because of their labyrinth organ, which enables them to breathe the air at the surface. I dont think they need or like living in small cups of water. A betta should have at least a half a gallon of water. If your wine glass is more like a goblet or margarita glass, then it might be okay.
    Good luck!
     
  3. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    IMO, a betta needs at least 1 gallon (but 2+ gallons is MUCH better). They can suffer from ammonia poisoning just like any other fish. So the more water you have, the more diluted the ammonia will be, and the less often you have to do water changes to keep them healthy. When I kept a betta in a 1 gallon, I had to do water changes twice a week. So in 1/2 gallon you woud likely have to do them every other day which can be stressful.

    And breeding bettas isn't as simple as putting a male & female together & letting them do their thing. Here's a good article: http://flippersandfins.net/BettaBreedingArticle.htm

    -Chelle
     
  4. Pekemom

    Pekemom New Member

    3-Second,

    I completely agree. I have a betta in a five gal Eclipse tank. He's happy as a clam! It includes filtration & a heater, and I do a weekly water change of one gallon religiously.

    They are much happier in a clean and filtered environment. What are you feeding, BTW??

    ~Nikki
     
  5. monster eel

    monster eel New Member

    hold your horses!

    I thought that Siamese Fighting Fish need to be in a Tropical Env.
    Eg with a heater???

    Can they survive in a cold tank - or a wine glass???

    That temp would be fluc. around 17 to 20 degrees at most

    I am at a loss here I dont quite understand
     
  6. Pekemom

    Pekemom New Member

    I don't think a heater is mandatory for a betta (at least in the tropical climate that I live in - florida). I have a heater in my five gal because of some other fish in there (including a pleco).

    I believe bettas come from Thailand (is that right)? and have been known to survive in small pools of water. I think that's why people believe that they can live without heat or filtration. Regardless, living in a wine glass can't be healthy for any fish.
     
  7. monster eel

    monster eel New Member

    wow well i have a 3.5 gallon thats just heavily planted with nothing in it but a borneo sucker - maybe ill purchase a beta and put it in
    - never thought it would survive....

    it has a filter on it that is for a 200 ltr tank so its pretty clean

    NOW IM IMPRESSED!!!
     
  8. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    Bettas are fairly hardy so they can tollerate temps between 70* & 85* fairly well and weekly 100% water changes don't bother them too much. But more frequently than that and they can get stressed which is why it's recommended to have at least 2 gallons. And they can breathe atmospheric air so that's why they don't need any form of surface agitation.

    I keep my 2 male bettas in 3 gallon jars ($13 at Walmart which is cheaper than most of those 1/4 gallon "betta bowls"). They get 100% water changes every 1 1/2 weeks even though I could easily go 2 - 2 1/2 weeks w/o any ammonia registering. And the 3 gallon jars when full weigh about 25 lbs which, for me, isn't too heavy to be easily lifted and carried to the sink so I can do the water changes.

    -Chelle
     
  9. Pekemom

    Pekemom New Member

    What other fish do you keep, t chelle??
     
  10. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    2 3 gallons:
    1 male betta and 1 small apple snail each

    10 gallon:
    female betta
    dwarf gourami
    2 oto cats
    2 adf's

    20 gallon (fry grow out tank):
    Permanant residents:
    5 pygmy cories
    2 emerald cats
    Current fry:
    yellow labs
    kenyi
    auratus
    apple snails

    55 gallon:
    lutino oscar
    pleco

    75 gallon:
    4 yellow labs
    3 kenyi
    2 ob peacocks
    4 socolofi (2 albino)
    2 red zebras
    2 auratus
    2 apple snails
    1 pleco

    750 gallon pond:
    8 rosey minnows
    2 shubunkin goldfish
    3 fantail goldfish
    4 plecos
    loads of snails, guppies, & leopard frogs

    -Chelle
     
  11. fishdude

    fishdude New Member

    ok, first no breedingin there.
    second, scince were on the subject, would it be ok if i kept a plaket-tar male fighter in a liter (0.2 of a gallon) small acrilick tank that you keep scorpiens and insects and stuff in? its doing fine and i do weekly water changes where i take all the water out and replace it. it seems to be doing fine.
     
  12. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    What's the ammonia reading right before the water change?

    -Chelle
     
  13. Ryan

    Ryan New Member

    can I keep a betta in a 30 gal tank of clow loaches and neons?
     
  14. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    He may chase the neons because of their bright colors, but I think it will be okay. I used to have a betta in a 10 gallon with neons and he was too slow to catch them.

    -Chelle
     
  15. fishdude

    fishdude New Member

    dont know, wait ill just go check.
     

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