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Raw feeding, vaccinations, and heartworms (oh my!)

Discussion in 'Dogs - all breeds / types' started by Jamiya, Apr 6, 2004.

  1. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    I stumbled across a great website with info on raw feeding, heartworm preventive (including some recipes for natural bug repellents), and vaccinations.

    Here is the site: http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/

    There are links to all the different sections. At the bottom of the "nutrition" page, there is another link to what they actually feed their bulldogs.

    Enjoy!


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  2. honeybears

    honeybears New Member

    Thanks Jimiya, very interesting. One thing I would like to know is the instance of indoor dogs that get heartworm Jake is rarely outside - and when our Mosquitos come out it is a t dusk and if we are outside, we all go in. I just posted on Jakes ick, that he is a magnet for mosquitos. Wylie is just the opposite, but she is outside a lot.

    I also said that we have the highest heartworm in the state. your article got me thinking - we are also a very poor area, so it could very well be their diet and after reading about spraying their kennels are these dogs outside dogs? Just how much time is spent outside. Now if Jake was an outside dog, he would get eaten alive. I am going Jake and Wylie on garlic

    honeybear
     
  3. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    Somebody else posted that it takes months on garlic to work as a repellent, so you may want to use a back-up plan, like one of the sprays they mentioned or the lemon spray I posted last week. I have not decided yet which I am going to try.

    I don't know if it is really true about how long it takes the garlic to work - I have not presonally read of any time frame. Perhaps whoever posted has a link or info on that? It seems to me that it would act fairly quickly.

    I am going to try a repellent and have Nala and Bonnie tested every 6 months for heartworms. There is also a heartworm nosode, but I have not looked into nosodes yet so I don't know anything about them.


    Jamiya
     
  4. honeybears

    honeybears New Member

    what is the lemon spray recipe, I missed that. I wnat to make a spray for Jake, because we like to sit out in the eve and we can spray ourselves but I have to put Jake in the house, so I want to try one of these.

    Thanks
    honeybear
     
  5. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    There were a couple different sprays on that bulldog site. The one I found before was posted to Auspet (I think) a long time ago and I don't know who posted it so I can't give credit. :)

    Here it is:


    Jamiya
     
  6. honeybears

    honeybears New Member

    thanks :D that one looks pretty easy
    honeybear
     
  7. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    Hehe, that was my thought. I think I will make that one and perhaps one from the bully site and see if one works better than the other. I am hoping for the lemon one. I bet it smells nice, too.


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  8. 2pyrs

    2pyrs New Member

    For the life off me I well never understand why people give there pets insecticides. We have been giving our guys all natural for over 20 years and have never I repeat never lost a dog or cat to heart worm or limes disease. Fleas all around us here living near the lake (sand fleas). My guys have had fleas only once in the last 8 years here and never tick bite or ticks and we take them into the woods a lot. My female pyr is now 9 years old and all we get her every 3 years is a shot for rabies and distemper only because off the law. We use black walnut in the summer and a mix of mustard,pumpkin,garlic,black walnut for worms and by the way they have only had worms twice in the last few years. Yes we go to the vet twice a year for blood check and general check up.My guys have great coats and know skin problems and very clean teeth.They line up twice a week to get there teeth cleaned, brushing twice week, once week general check over and cut there nails myself. My last Collie was 15 years old before we lost him and that was to old age the vet said. I have lost more dogs over the years more to the inept breeders not knowing what they were doing.(Bad hips,bones, kidneys,parvo,distemper and even blind.)

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  9. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    From what I have read, black walnut can be toxic and may be just as dangerous as the heartworm preventive meds. And some sites are saying that garlic is the same as onion and can harm your dog! Although I have also read that it is only harmful if you overdo it, and one clove a day is fine.

    I hate all the conflicting info. I don't want my dogs to get heartworms. Everything I read says the risk is greatly exaggerated by vets and there is no cause for alarm. So, I don't want to give heartworms meds, but I want to do SOMETHING!

    I am still trying to find info from people who have not given heartworm meds for years without any problems, and then I will choose which method to take.

    I have already found 3 ticks on the dogs this year, and I personally have been eaten by mosquitoes already and I am not outside that much! Also, the dogs do end up being outside at prime mosquito times, because they eat outside in the morning.


    Jamiya
     
  10. 2pyrs

    2pyrs New Member

    Black walnut is no more toxic then a cucumber. After it has been refined it is a lot different then right off the tree. Black walnut has been given to people for many years and I have yet to hear of any one dieing from it and personally I love walnuts in my brownies and chocolate chip cookies. I have seen animals over the years eat them off the ground around a tree. I do know for certain that the stuff the vets sell is toxic,I mean when I have to wash my hands and be careful not to get it in my eyes , mouth or on my skin just how safe is it for my guys. I have yet to lose a dog or cat to black walnut and have been giving it for more then 15 years, even the breeder I bought my pyr from uses it and has a tree near by that the dogs lay under and chew on the shells. I also believe that certain foods are processed differently in our bodies then stuff that is highly toxic known poisons. We also us mustard seed and pumpkin and have had no ill affects from it on our guys. By the way they get black walnut two weeks on and two weeks off mixed in there food till we get our first frost. They also have a steady diet of garlic and various greens. Boy do they love there green beans and spinach cookies.

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  11. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    Here's a nifty article about pesticides that are sold for use on dogs: http://members.aol.com/abywood/www/wormflea.htm

    The lesson being - read the label and take notes, then go home and research it.

    I particularly liked this quote (below). I had heard that raw fed dogs are less likely to get worms, but I never really knew why except for the general "the immune system is stronger when on an appropriate diet" answer.


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  12. klf

    klf New Member

    another interesting thing about BARF diets is the bones from uncooked meats don't splinter! cooked bones do!
     
  13. pompeii

    pompeii New Member

     
  14. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    You do have to keep in mind that "natural" does not always mean "good". There are many "natural" poisons that are just as bad as the man-made ones.


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