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100 dollar budget, anyone have suggestions?

Discussion in 'Fish and Aquarium - all types' started by sakura.seppun, May 18, 2005.

  1. sakura.seppun

    sakura.seppun New Member

    I have 100 dollars, at most, set aside for an aquarium. I already have an waterproof lamp, undergravel filter, 2 plants, a few chemicals, and gravel. I own a 10 gallon tank and a 20 gallon tank.

    Are there any suggestions for what I could do on this budget? And any suggestions of where to find bargain prices? Also keep into account that I'm a pretty new aquarium owner.
  2. dude412

    dude412 New Member

    why do you want bargain that just means ur bargianing price usally butmnot always and undergravel filters are not that good becuase they leave waste caught in filter anyways you need a new filter heater gravel decorations and fish so id say you could pull it off depending on fish you want
  3. Trickster

    Trickster New Member

    Ur position does not look to good, Under grav filter has to go, set the 20 not the 10 Gal. 10 is crap and more work, main things u wana have is Water conditioner and bio support $7, need filter $25, heater $20, fish Price Vareys, decorations $20 minimum... food $10, Gravel vacum $10 if u got $100 u can make it work since u already got the tank it self, is the tank lided? theres alot u need for the aquarium and takes alot maitnence.


    Good Luck

    (I reccommend taking beegineer fish like: guppies, mollies, tetras, sword tails etc......)
  4. sakura.seppun

    sakura.seppun New Member

    I also have an regular filtration system, not sure what its called. I already have a vac, and the chemicals. What I was wondering is for easy to care for plants and fish. I prefer bright colored fish.
    Does anyone know anything about Dragonfish, Black Veil Angels, or Blue Crayfish?
    I do have some experience with maintaining an aquarium, the resaon why I want easy to care for is because I don't have much money.

    So my question was:

    100 dollars to stock both tanks, 10 gal. and 20 gal. (long), with plants and fish. Obviously my 20 gal. is going to be the main tank. I'm only worried about overstocking, which was the problem with my last aquarium.
  5. sakura.seppun

    sakura.seppun New Member

    Would a 20 gal be enough for 1 (either blue or flame) Gourami, 2 Green Tiger Barbs, 1 male guppy, 2 Swordtails, and 2 Golddust Mollys?

    The tank is a 20 gal. long.

    Then for the 10 gal. would a male betta, 2 female betas, and one stargazer goldfish have enough space and NOT kill each other?
  6. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    Technically, those fish should be able to fit in a 20 gallon, but tiger barbs tend to be extremely aggressive and they'll probably end up killing each other and/or the other fish. It's best to keep tiger barbs in a big group in a large tank. The other fish should be okay.

    For the 10 gallon, I would not put the goldfish in there. Fancy goldfish get around 5" - 6" and really need at least 15 - 20 gallons each. Also, it's not a good idea to mix male bettas with females unless it's during the short period when they're breeding. Otherwise they'll likely try to kill eachother. Depending on the individual personalities of the fish, it is generally possible to keep several females together. So you could try 3 females and some kind of bottom feeder like maybe 3 pygmy cories or a few oto catfish.

  7. sakura.seppun

    sakura.seppun New Member

    scratch the tiger barbs, replace with 1 apple snail and 1 blue crayfish, only get up to 4'' and is also a bottom feeder.

    In the 10 gal. the one pleco and goldfish that I still own, and one fire newt.

    Sound liveable? Happy fish?
  8. Trickster

    Trickster New Member

    10 g is minimum for Gold fish, but goldish will eat anything they can get their mouth over! so if u gonna put a gold fish, put only 1, and i dont think getting more then 1 betta is good, i tried 2 female bettas and they were fighting.
  9. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    I still think a 10 gallon tank is too small for a goldfish. Try picturing a fish the size of a grapefruit in that tank. I suggest putting the goldfish in the 20 gallon by itself then work on stocking the 10 gallon.

    And a 10 gallon is definitely too small for most plecos. There's a few tiny species, but they not very common and generally cost a fortune. Most of the plecos you'll see for sale are commons or sail fins which get 12" - 18" long.

    And crayfish will most likely kill fish.

  10. Fish Addict

    Fish Addict New Member

    for pleco you could get a clown pleco if you can find one
  11. sakura.seppun

    sakura.seppun New Member

    The pleco that I have was said to only get to 5 inches.
    The goldfish that I have is the sort that most keep in bowls, the kind you get for 10cents at Petco.
    With the crayfish I was told that they would only eat dead fish, lobsters will eat them.
    Do you still think that the Goldfish needs to be in the 20 gallon, the ammonia levels are just to high with a goldfish, so I'd rather keep him out if possible.
  12. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    Does the pleco look like this?
    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/t ... gosi01.jpg

    Does the goldfish have a round body with a double tail? If it's a round body, then yes, it really needs at least 20 gallons. Here's a pic of a fancy goldfish (probably about 5") in a 10 gallon. Do you really think it doesn't look cramped?
    http://image18.webshots.com/18/7/85/35/ ... xqb_ph.jpg

    Or does the goldfish have a more elongated body with a single tail? If it does, then chances are it's a common goldfish. They get over 12" long and need at least 50 gallons.

  13. sakura.seppun

    sakura.seppun New Member

    The pleco looks like what you showed, but with slightly redder spots.
    The goldfish picture didn't work, but he is orange and white splotched, slightly rounded body, and kind of a fan tail.
    Are there any products that can keep the ammonia down enough to keep other fish with the goldfish?
  14. Trickster

    Trickster New Member

    The 10 cent goldfish are feeders! a real gold fish that u would keep costs about $5- $15, for a basic cap or fancy. Feeder fish are very poorly taken care of and always loaded with diseases! Even if u do buy them as feeders u gotta qurintine for 4 weeks. I tried raising a feeder goldfish in a seperate container and it died in 3 days.
  15. sakura.seppun

    sakura.seppun New Member

    I've had this "feeder goldfish" for over a month. Its the most hardy fish that I have.
  16. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    Your pleco is most likely a common which means it will get around 12" long and needs to be housed in at least a 40 gallon tank.

    Which of these does your goldfish look more like?




  17. sakura.seppun

    sakura.seppun New Member

    he doesnt look like either, maybe a mix of the two. Think of a koi but 1 inch long.
    The pleco will have to go then, thanks for the heads up. Petco had told me, and it was on their sign, that he would only get to 5 inches.

    <img src="http://www.grumpyspond.com/pics/fantail.jpg"> he looks like this, but much smaller with 2 fins rather than 3 on his tail.
  18. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    How about this one?


    Or this one?


    Does it have little bumpy or bristle looking things on its nose? Like this?

  19. sakura.seppun

    sakura.seppun New Member

    minus the black spots, the first one looks EXACTLY like my fish. So yes, I would say the first one is it.
    How big does he get?
  20. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    That first pic is a shubunkin and they get around 10". However, as far as I know, shubunkins only come in calico (white, orange, & black). If yours is orange & white and has the same basic body shape, it is more likely a comet and they get around 12" and would need at least a 55 gallon tank (even the shubunkin would need at least 40 gallons).


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