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Abduction precautions for Women

Discussion in 'General Topics & Support Issues' started by vene, May 1, 2005.

  1. vene

    vene New Member

    Taken from the TLC e-mail:

    Abductions precautions for Women
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >We can now add to the list of victims the retired 77 yr. old TCU
    >> >professor from Ft Worth whose body was found last week in
    >> >Oklahoma--and the 11 yr.old in Sarasota, FL. Because of these
    >> >abductions in daylight hours, refresh yourself of these things to
    >> >in an emergency situation...This is for you, and for you to share
    >> >with your wife, your children, everyone you know.
    >> >
    >> >After reading this, forward it to someone you care about. It never
    >> >hurts to be careful in this crazy world we live in.
    >> >
    >> >1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your
    >> >body.
    >> >If you are close enough to use it, do!
    >> >
    >> >2. Learned this from a tourist guide in New Orleans. If a robber
    >> >asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it
    >> >away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your
    >> >wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse.
    >> >
    >> >3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the
    >> >tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like
    >> >crazy.
    >> >The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved
    >> >lives.
    >> >
    >> >4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping,
    >> >eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or
    >> >making a list, etc. DON'T DO THIS!) The predator will be watching
    >> >you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the
    >> >passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go.
    >> >
    >> >5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or
    >> >parking
    >> >garage:
    >> >
    >> >A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger
    >> >side floor, and in the back seat.
    >> >
    >> >B..) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the
    >> >passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling
    >> >them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into
    >> >their cars.
    >> >
    >> >C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle,
    >> >the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest
    >> >your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get
    >> >a guard/policeman to walk you back out.
    >> >
    >> >IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid
    >> >dead.)
    >> >
    >> >6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are
    >> >horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).
    >> >
    >> >7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control,
    >> >ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in
    >> >100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ.
    >> >RUN!
    >> >
    >> >8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may
    >> >get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a
    >> >good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the
    >> >of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often
    >> >asked "for help"
    >> >into
    >> >his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next
    >> >victim.
    >> >
    >> >9. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard
    >> >a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called
    >> >police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police
    >> >told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door."
    >> >
    >> >The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a
    >> >window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and
    >> >get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the
    >> >way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they
    >> >think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded, and uses it to
    >> >women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby.
    >> >He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by
    >> >women saying that they hear baby crying outside their doors, when
    >> >they're home alone at night.
    >> >
    >> >Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby.
    >> >e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby
    >> >theory was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday
    >> >when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.
    >> >
    >> >I'd like you to forward this to all the women you know. It may save
    >> >a life. A candle is not dimmed by lighting another candle. I was
    >> >going to send this to the ladies only, but guys, if you love your
    >> >mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, etc., you may want to pass it
    >> >onto them, as well.
    >> >
    >> >Send this to any woman you know that may need to be reminded that
    >> >the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it, and it's better to
    >> >be safe than sorry.
    >> >
    >> >Frank E. Carlton M.D.
    >> >Medical Director for CQI
    >> >& Patient Safety Officer
    >> >MHUMC[/quote]
  2. DeLaUK

    DeLaUK New Member

    Thanks for posting that vene, I used to do a lot of night time driving around LA and was always pretty careful but its good to get a reminder now and then, the one about the crying baby is really scary, I would imagine most peoples instinct would be to open the door and look, Ive done that often enough if Ive heard a dog or a cat outside my door, luckily thats exactly what Ive always found but it never would have occured to me that a rapist would do something like that.
  3. vene

    vene New Member

    And some more nice to know info:
    One can never be too safe!

    A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were
    interviewed on what they look for in a potential victim and here are
    some interesting facts:

    1) The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.

    2) The second thing men look for is clothing.They will look for women who's clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors around to cut clothing.

    3) They also look for women on their cell phone,
    searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard and can be easily overpowered.

    4) The time of day men are most likely to attack and rape a woman is in the early morning, between 5 and 8:30 a.m.

    5) The number one place women are abducted
    from/attacked at is grocery store parking lots. Number two is office parking lots/garages. Number three is public restrooms.

    6) The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to a second location where they don't have to worry about getting caught.

    7) Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.

    8) If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn't worth it because it will be time-consuming.

    9) These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands. Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you're not worth it.

    10) Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a
    question, like what time is it, or make general small talk, I can't believe it is so cold out here, we're in for a bad winter. Now you've seen their face and could identify them in a line-up, you lose appeal as a target.

    11) If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell Stop or Stay back! Most of the rapists this man talked to said they'd leave a woman alone if she yelled or
    showed that she would not be afraid to fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target.

    12) If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes,) yelling "I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY!" and holding it out will be a deterrent.

    13) If someone grabs you, you can't beat them with strength but you can by outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm between the elbow and armpit or in the upper inner thigh -- HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands - the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it; it hurts.

    14) After the initial hit, always go for the groin...
    I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's parts it is extremely painful. You might think that you'll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble, and he's out of there.

    15) When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.

    16) Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don't dismiss it, go with your
    instincts. You may feel a little silly at the time, but you'd feel muchworse if the guy really was trouble.


    To add to this advice, here's a website that you can check different areas by zipcode and see if there are criminals living there that you should beware of. Here's the website:

  4. RoWdY

    RoWdY New Member

    Very valuable information!

    This has been on my mind alot lately. I'm afraid that I'm one of those women that is way too sympathetic to everyone and anyone AND I wear a ponytail most of time (never knew guys actually attacked long haired ponytailed women the most!) AND I work at a grocery store where I have to walk a long way to my car.

    I kick myself in the butt everytime I try to be helpful to a strange man looking for a product and the next thing you know, he's asking me if I'm married and keeps coming around to talk to me and I don't want to hurt their feelings so I keep talking to them. :oops: One time this one guy was actually waiting for me when I got off work and thankfully, I was with my friend so I jumped in my car and left really quickly.

    I know that my kindness (or is it stupidity?) is going to get me in trouble one day. Thankfully my best friend (and bodyguard haha) looks out for me while I'm there. Sometimes he'll come over and tell me he needs me for something to get them away from me.

    I've started looking down at the floor lately instead of directly in anyone's face hoping that it'll keep the small talk at bay but then they think I'm one of those unhelpful grocery persons which makes me feel bad too.

    It's a sad sad world. :(

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