Anyone have experiance with mange?

About 3 months ago Sydney got demodex mange. She lost most of the hair on her chin, and chest, and everything was red there, even on her legs. So she got treated and the redness went away and her skin turned a blackish color which i was told is normal, means they r getting better. The hair on her chin grew back but it never really grew back on her chest, and she has hardly any hair on her stomach. Its been 3 months or so since she has had the mange, maybe even a little longer. Will the hair ever grow back? Also she has a little red mark on her neck, im hoping from the cat since they play together and the cat has sharp teeth. I got some pics of her before and after the mange, so you can see what her neck and stomach use to look like before. So is this normal 3 months or more after treatment?

Before the mangewhite one her neck&stomach)

Beforeharder to see but you can see how light it is)


After:
Her neck

Her Stomach

Her Neck Agian

 

I don't know about mange, but I do know that it took forever for Bonnie's fur to grow back after her spay. She was spayed in January last year, we got her in March, and it was a good number of months later before it was really growing back. I'd say a good 6 months to a year, although I don't remember specifically.

 

It can take quite a while for the hair to grow back. I wouldn't be too concerned just yet.

My dachshund had most of the hair on his neck chewed off by another dog, and that took about 6 months to completely grow in. And in that case there wasn't any damage to the skin or hair follicle. Those nasty mange mites can do a lot of damage, and so can the secondary bacterial infections that often come along with the mange.

 

I agree -- shouldn't be anything to worry about. If you'd like to speed it along, you could use Malaseb shampoo to kill of any residual nasties in the skin and maybe try the "grow hair on a doorknob" recipe.

Published in the Quincy Kennel Club's cookbook, submitted by Virginia Knocke:

1 lb. Peanut Butter
1 lb. honey
1 lb. diaglo (powder) or Mirra coat
1 pt. Lavitamin also known as Lixotinic (Can be found at http://www.kvvet.com/)

Have peanut butter at room temperature. Mix all ingredients together This will be very thick and sticky. Stores indefinitely in refrigerator. Make into balls according to size of the dog.

Small dogs should get 1-3 teaspoons daily,
Large dogs should get 1-2 tablespoons daily.

Guaranteed to grow hair-- even on doorknobs. If you can get the doorknobs to eat and digest this--it will grow hair!

 

Thank you so much everyone! I was getting worried b/c i thought it should have grown back by now. I feel much better. I'm taking my other dog to get her annual shots in a week and I'm gonna take Syd along so the vet tech can just check and make sure all is going according to plan. I will also try that recipe, thanks agian!!!

 

Animal hair takes much longer to grow back than human hair...
Thats why people that shave their dogs, say that their hair never returns to its ORIGINAL type and length....

 

And your not marketing this and getting rich why????
I know a few men that have tried every fad for hair regrowth product with no luck....Ill pass this recipe on to them.

 

LOL - That's the "guarantee" that came with the recipe.... Even though I've never seen a dog with a combover, I suppose that if men were willing to ingest dog supplements, I don't see how it could hurt! :mrgreen:

 

Under normal circumstances dog hair grows about an inch a month. When people have their dogs shaved and the hair doesn't grow back normally, there's something wrong with the dog. Usually it's hypothyroidism or Cushing's disease. Sometimes it's diabetes and sometimes it's a poor diet.

There's a rare condition in Pomeranians called black skinned alopecia. It's genetic, and shaving the dog only hastens the diagnosis, as the hair never grows back after the dog is shaved. Eventually the dog would have lost that hair anyway, but not as fast as shaving it all at once.

There's also a condition referred to as Alopecia X, or Post Grooming Alopecia. The exact reason for the poor hair growth is unknown, but one theory is that the skin or hair follicles are damaged during the clipping, and hair growth is slowed significantly. When it does grow back it is often sparse and cottony at first. On occasion that's the only regrowth you get. Subsequent shaving exacerbates the problem, but testing usually reveals there's something else going on, like the above mentioned medical conditions.

 

Could it be it grows more slowly in some areas, like on the tummy where the hair is shorter? I swear, Bonnie's tummy fur took a good six months to grow back and as far as I know, there's nothing wrong with her!

 

I have to disagree with that as well...
I've known several dogs Chows, poms, collies, ect... that had been shaved and their hair never had the same "look" as it did before. And to my knowledge nothing was wrong with those dogs.

I shave Molly every summer, and her hair comes back really fast. So usually we do it twice. Once in May and again in July. She's in perfect health other than a mild case of arthritis that comes with 10 yr old dogs, and her hair has never been the same either....

 

The operative phrase here is "...as far as I know...". Sometimes the vet just isn't looking far enough. Hypothyroidism is a tricky thing to diagnose sometimes because while you can test the levels, you can't test for what level is normal for that individual animal. A lot of dogs who test in the lower normal range are actually not producing the normal levels for that individual animal. These dogs will respond well to a low dose of Thyroxine, which is usually indicative of atypical hypothyroidism.

The there's the question of "Has there been damage done to the hair follicle by clipping?" Unless a skin biopsy is done, you'll never know. And though the dog may be in perfect health otherwise, damage to the hair follicle is still something wrong with the dog. If the dog was clipped, and the hair comes back in normally, but takes a long time to do it, that indicates that dog hair grows slow. But if it never comes back in normal, if it comes back cottony or sparse, or changes color, that means SOMETHING is wrong. Even if it's just burnt follicles.

 

Two of the German Shepherds I rescued had demo mange. They were both treated with Ivermectin for 6 weeks (that was after they were dipped). One of them also had a fungal infection on his skin, so he had to be bathed DAILY with Malaseb for 3 weeks. But during and especially after the treatment was completed (which is less than two months they already had beautiful coats. Here's an example:

Before:



Before:




Two months after:







... and here's the other one:

Before:





After:





You may want to check again with your vet and see if the demo was really cured, and/or if there's anything else that could stall the hair growth...

 

I love the photo of the GSD asleep with her head on the coffee table..

For what its worth, Ill give my opinion, different dogs, different growth rate with the hair, some grow back fast, some take longer and some dont grow it back. Some of the pets weve had in for surgery like with a fractured leg or back surgery the hair has grown back a different colour.

One cats hair grew back at the wrong angle, although that was after a messy dog attack on a rear leg, after the bone was healing nicely we#d been doing wet to dry bandaging then the vet did a skin graft....he was an excellent surgeon but had never done one of these before, he attached the skin the wrong way, the hair did actually grow....only it grew upwards instead of down the leg...after that he used a surgical marker and put little arrows on the skin that went in the direction of the hair before he removed it.

 

Me too!!

So, Bonnie's hair grew back normally but it took a long time. The next time she is at the vet for a checkup, should I have them check for thyroid problems just to be safe? What are other symptoms of hypothyroidism?

I'm thinking Nala's tummy fur took a while to grow back as well. I figured it was normal.

 

Thanks, guys :wink: . The one with her head on the coffee table is Crikey. She perfected sleeping to an art. As in :




Speaking of mange and hair re-growth, DaLaUK is right, different breeds, different patterns maybe...

 

Jamiya,

My dog's earliest symptoms of hypothyroidism was sleeping more (which we thought was just mellowing out with age), a tendency to develop skin irritations/infections (including itchiness), and slow hair re-growth - there was a patch of fur that didn't seem to be growing back normally. One of the most common symptoms is weight gain, but my dog didn't have that issue.

Here's a more complete list if you're interested, but if slow-ish belly hair growth is the only 'symptom' in a young dog, I wouldn't be concerned: http://www.workingdogs.com/doc0112.htm

It's just a simple blood test, though, so IF you want to check it or to establish a baseline for future comparison, it can't hurt. And it's definitely worth including in a senior blood panel. There are so many problems that hypothyroidism can contribute to.

 

Some of the other symtoms are as duckling said, sleeping more, skin problems, I think the common report Ive heard from clients has been sudden weight gain despite dieting and skin problems (itching, hair not growing back or grows back very thin) but also there can be behavioural changes in the attitude, may be snappy, lack of interest in things that the dogs were previously interested in....'doesnt want to play ball any more'...things like that, lethargy. To do the testing, we never did thyroid tests at the e-clinic so I dont know what the costs would be now but it never used to be an expensive test and the medication is not expensive, the pet should be fasted prior to testing but Im not sure how long for (just check with your vet on that). Different foods can make a difference, Ive read reports that say dogs have been able to come off the medication with strict raw diets. testing should also be done every couple of months to make sure that the right dosage is being given, if the dog is sick (with another problem) this can give completely innaccurate results as can some medications if the dog is already taking something and Ive read that vaccines can alter the results within a certain time period.

My chihauha mix started losing hair on her chest after she started her 'new trick', her front end would be down and her butt up in the air, she would then 'glide' around the carpet propelling herself with her back legs....wasnt one of my tricks, she came up with that one all by herself :shock: (okay...after I saw her do it a few times I went along with it and would say 'crawl', which she did). When I moved to Germany my friend asked me if she could keep Gypsy, my friend was my room-mate and her 5 year old had bonded with her, so I left her with them ....my friend has tile and wood floors, Gypsy still does her trick but the hair has grown back on her chest, I think it was just the friction from the carpets that was keeping her bald there.

 

Bonnie is a young dog and has no other symptoms. Perhaps at some point I will have them do full panels on both dogs as a baseline.