Dogs french kissing???

Does anyone know what it means in the K9 world when dogs lick in each others mouths??? I have a 7 year old Jack (female) and a 5 months old Blue Healer x (male) who is new family addition. Was wondering what this licking is all about. They are working out their pecking order and the male seems to be winning. He likes to lick in the Jacks mouth, obsessively I might add. Any thoughts???
Cynthia

 

I heard somewhere that it could be a doniance/submissive thing. The dog who is licking the other dogs mouth is telling them that they are submissive to them and that the dog who's mouth is being licked is more dominant. I dont know if thats true, just what I heard.

 

*kiss kiss* i dont think kumas being submissive there. shes always laying the smack down on obi at the park. she only licks dogs mouths who have big piles of drool hanging off them.

 

When my nala was here sebastain and jasmine were always licking in her mouth i never could understand why and nala would get very upset and growl after awhile. now that she is gone sebastain and jasmine lick each others mouths don't know why but i think it's cute

 

Maybe it's the smell of food on each others mouth. Or maybe they just love to kiss. :kiss_her:

 

My dogs lick each others tongues especially after one of them gets a drink of water. I just figured one of the dogs are just too lazy to get their own drink of water.

 

I also read it in a book what winnie said. It has something to do with submissive don´minance stuff, I forget which wayit works though if the licker is the dominant or the lickee.

 

Hi puppies do this in the wild to promote the mother to vomit so they can eat what she has eaten as the mother would go and kill and eat whatever come back to the den and then the puppies would indice vomiting in the female this happens in domesticated dogs too as my pups kept doing that and my girls would automatically throw up.

A few breeders i know say there pups do this alot i think its just instinct to survive.


I dont think its a dominance thing

Mike

 

It can be a submissive behavior. I would imagine as with most other things, it can mean different things at different times.

 

Well I think it's probably a little of both but if it is a dominant / submissive thing, then which is the dominant one? The licker or the lickee??? It would be helpful to know.
Cynthia

 

I don't think this is the same thing... but this thread reminded me of something that Anna (collie/ret X) and Klink (gsd x with something really BIG)
Klink would have a tennis ball in his mouth and Anna would lick the side of his lips to get him to relax and drop the ball. Soon as he dropped it she would take the ball away from him. He would just look like a wounded dog and go find a different one. LOL And it would start all over. Eventually she had all of the tennis balls so he would just go get one out of her "pile". I think it was partly because she was to lazy to go find her own as they are all over the house. So she waited till her big brother got one and then steal it! LOL

 

Jersey isn't "allowed" to lick Serene's mouth first. If she tries, Serene will growl, lick out Jersey's mouth, THEN let Jersey lick hers! The lickee is also doing the talking/moaning thing the whole time. The other day, they started, and just as Jersey was getting her turn to lick Serene, Serene sneezed right in Jersey's face, and when Serene sneezes, she SNEEZES! Jersey just looked indignant and walked away. I just about fell off the bed I was laughing so hard, b/c Serene looks at Jersey like "What? Where ya goin?!?"

 

HAha! Cute stories! :lol:
But on a more serious note.........
I think I now need to get more detailed about my situation as it is starting to concern me. :roll:
Okay here it goes!
Now besides the mouth licking thing. (Him licking her mouth)
As you know, I have a 7 yr old Jack (female) named Brooke.
I was out of town working and I aquired (SAVED) a 5 mnth old Blue Healer X (male) from an indian reserve named Kanoe. (The place and the dog) I named him after the place he is from.
Turns out that the very night I got him home he started getting really sick. You guessed it "PARVO"!!! So a week of hell and $1300 later, he pulls through. I had to keep my Jack away from him for a week as an extra precaution. So she stayed upstairs and Kanoe stayed downstairs in my room with me so I could tend to him and let him out etc. Then after the week I re-introduced them. (They met the first night and played together) Well...........JELOUSY!!! But since he is more dominant, and bigger, he lets her have it when she gets to close to me or toys or food. I now only bring toys out to play with them together and make me boring to him so he will enjoy Brookes company during play time. They have separate eating spaces which helps. It is working and the jelousy is subsiding a bit. BUT..........every once in awhile he lets her have it. Now that isn't what bothers me. It's "HOW" he lets her have it. It isn't a growl, bark, snap thing. It's a paws and teeth on the back with a nasty growl thing. Now Brooke isn't scared of anything but she is scared of him. That also worries me. I don't leave them alone together. I don't give one of them special attention. They both get the same. They sleep in the same room with me but they have separate beds. When he acts up during play time I take the toys away and end the fun. When he attacks her I isolate him and make it very clear that that is not acceptable behaviour. Now I know I will have to bring him to training but is there anything else I can do to strengthen their relationship so he doesn't get so aggressive with her? Is there anything I am doing wrong? Is there anything I should be concerned about?
Worried in Maple Ridge, Canada [-o<

 

hopefully they will eventually settle things and get along. Does the new dog act like this to all dogs? or just yours? It may just take time to settle the down, but some dogs just don't get along with other dogs. There are a couple people here that have multi dog families and keep them seperated alot of time, if not always. But I think more likely with your case the new one hasn'T been socialized that well and since he is young it could improve.

 

With the licking thing: the submissive one usually does the licking.

Remember that sometimes who is "dominant" can change from situation to situation. There's not always one alpha all the time. But sometimes there is...

When your heeler "attacks" the jack, does he draw blood? Have there been any injuries? Sometimes it is best to let them work things out for themselves. Interfering or punishing the behavior can make things worse. HOWEVER, you have to make sure everyone is safe!!

I would enlist the help of a good POSITIVE behaviorist that is experienced with aggression issues.

It sounds like you are doing things right. You should spend time with each dog alone and with them together. You should also make sure that you do NOT allow them to guard you or possessions. Some books about this are "Mine! A Practical Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs" (Jean Donaldson) and "Dogs are from Neptune" (Jean Donaldson). You might also look for books about multi-dog households.

Gina or one of the other pit owners might be able to give more advice on socializing them.

 

He acts like that with all dogs. I would love to start socializing him but everyone is scared their dog will get Parvo and I am scared he will get something from another dog. He gets his first shots tomorrow so my worries will be gone. As for other people, he should be clear of the Parvo by now. So I will be socializing him ASAP. My friend works for a vet that offers free dog socializing classes. I'll be attending those for sure. As for blood shed, none as of yet. Let's hope it stays that way. The next time he attacks her, I will wait a little longer to see if she lets him have it back. I hope she lets him have it enough to scare him. Should smarten him up. I've been watching them pretty closely and I think Brooke is actually liking the licking from Kanoe. Brooke use to do it with my Ex's dog. (male Shepard) Now the roles have reversed with this male. Interesting...... Well we'll see what happens with some training and some time. I think they will be fine eventually. They are both well behaved dogs. He's just new to the family and he has some bad habits. He'll turn around. He's starting to already. Quite quickly actually. Cross your fingers for me.
:y_the_best:
PS I'll check out those books!
Thanks!
Cynthia