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Help! My puppy is pregnant

Discussion in 'Dogs - all breeds / types' started by beccadh, Jul 7, 2004.

  1. beccadh

    beccadh New Member

    Hi! I have a 10 month old golden retirever who I think is pregnant. I also own a 3 year old german shpehrd (who is not nuetered and would be the dad :oops: ). I know that it was extremly irresponsible of me to have two 'intact' dogs, even though they were kenneled at two differant ends of our acreage (he broke his chain and dug under her kennel) but my question is this. What can I do? Should I let her have the puppies? I want to use her for breeding when she is older. What effect will the this have on her late ron? How dangerous is it? Any advice would be helpful!!!!!
     
  2. honeybears

    honeybears New Member

    your poor pup. YOu need to abort the pregnency asap. you are putting your puppy in extreme danger to have babies this young.
    Question, why isnt the German shepahrd altered?? becaue this will continue to be a huge problem trying to keep them seperated every time she goes in heat
    honeybear
     
  3. nern

    nern New Member

    I agree with Honeybears. Unfortunately, intact males will go to extreme lengths to get to females in heat. I recommend contacting your vet to discuss options, risks and concerns.
     
  4. bullylove1

    bullylove1 New Member

    Personally, I would abort the pregnancy. 10 months is much too young to have puppies. If she is "breeding quality" and you do plan to breed her in the future, having pups now could ruin those chances and really hurt her.
    Also, if you do not use the male as a stud, I would get him neutured. He will continue to go after your bitch everytime she is in heat otherwise. I have heard of dogs going through glass windows to get a bitch in heat, so please think about that in the future.

    Good luck.
     
  5. charmedagain

    charmedagain New Member

    Hi i agree with everyone to have your female checked and if she is pregnant to have it aborted.

    The fact that she is only 10months old is a good enough reason to abort the litter then there is the risk of the puppies being to large due to the father being a shepherd this alone can kill a pregnant female.

    A male dog will do anything and go through anything to get to a female in heat.
    Its always best to keep an in heat female indoors where she can be watch all the time.

    If your worried about her getting blood on things then you can buy special pants for dogs i dont know what they are called are where you can get them maybe someone else can have them.

    A 2year old female has problems and alot of stress is put on her when she is carrying a litter and the risk of things going wrong rises when they are in whelp so please abort the litter for the safety if your little girl.

    Also have her checked for any infections she may have caught from the other dog i am not saying he has any but there is always taht chance and some viruses and bacteria will render the female infertile.

    Mike
     
  6. Samsintentions

    Samsintentions New Member

    I definatley agree. Could you imagine your child pregnant at such a young age? The dog has the same mentality.

    Your risking a lot of factors if you decide to go ahead and allow her to whelp. The puppies could be to large and get stuck in the birth canal, killing both mother and pups.
    She could have them, and have serious damage to her insides and hemorage.
    Or she could have them jsut fine, and not want them after they are born. Then what? You'll be stuck with the responcibility of feeding all the pups!!! Unless your financially able and physically/mentally able to take on any of these responsibilites, you should really consult your vet.


    If your planning on breeding her in the future. You should already know most of this. If not,You've got alot of reading to do.!
     
  7. beccadh

    beccadh New Member

    Thanks for your posts guys! I appreciate it. I have a few more questions though.

    Is there some form of 'natural' abortion? Everything I've read has said that the the pills she would have to take are extremley dangerous. Is there any other possible alternative? LIke what, I'm not sure...

    So what you're saying Samsintentions is that even if she does have the puppies fine, it could really wreck it if she want to have puppies again?

    I know a lady who keeps telling me that its my fault she is pregnant and I shuould have to deal with the consequences and she totally disagrees with getting an abortion (I totlally disagree with her). She says the sma ething happened to her dog and the puppies were just fine and they never had to worry about Mama getting pregnant again. Could thta be because she had the puppies so young? If I let me dog have puppies at 1 year, is it going to make any less 'reseptive' for another litter?

    This was Crisco's first heat, are the chances of her being pregnant any less? I'm going to contact my vet today, but I'd still like some answers form you guys!
     
  8. Samsintentions

    Samsintentions New Member

    No what I'm saying is, she's not old enough, and she may not have the instincts that an older dog has to raise puppies.

    And I'm also saying that if she does have complications and accidnetally injures her uterus, it could cause a severe hemoriage and kill her.
     
  9. kyles101

    kyles101 New Member

    yet another 'one'. anyway, there is no such thing as a natural abortion. what on earth were you thinking of? it sounds like youve been fed alot of myths about pregnancy and dogs. has anyone got a good site for this person to visit? if you made this mistake now i highly doubt you are going to have the resources and knowledge to breed this dog later. you sound clueless. abort the litter, get the dog spayed.
     
  10. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    Actually, it is your DOG that has to deal with the consequences.


    Jamiya
     
  11. charmedagain

    charmedagain New Member

    Hi again breeding your dog at 1yr old is still young 2years old is when most breeders first breed from there females so this is usually on there 3rd heat cycle.

    Providing your female is no further on than 3weeks into her pregnancy then a vet can give an injection which is a high dosage of hormone which makes the body reabsorb the litter into her body.

    If there is skeleton formation then it has to be an operation to remove the pups and this is also a good time to spay her.

    THe woman that is saying that its perfectly fine for your female to go ahead and have the litter seriously needs to read up more on breeding as not all excuse the word bitches are the same.

    At 10months old her body is having alot to deal with hormonal changes body growth and having to deal with a pregnancy aswell is demanding on an adult bitch so imagen what the poor puppy will go through.

    The risks of rupture uterus will kill her.
    She could die during the whelp.
    The litter could die inside her and start to decompose which will then cause toxin's to poision your little girl these all happen in adult dogs so imagen this happening to your puppy.

    Your puppy is at the age where her body is learning how to use and store calcium when pregnant they use alot of calcium in there bodies to cope with the developing feotus...

    If you allow her to have this litter you are risking the chances of her ever becoming pregnant again as her uterus is not able to cope at this young an age and the risks of her having complications are really high.

    Also you say its a german shepherd that mated with her well there you go her litter is going to be large i breed shepherds and the pups are huge so that in itself is a risk to your pup.

    Please do the right thing and take her to the vets to have the pregnancy terminated she will be off colour for a couple of days but that is perfectly normal.
    The risks of termination are minimal Your vet will tell you all about it.

    Mike
     
  12. Mary_NH

    Mary_NH New Member

    ditto on what everyone else says. Guess you'll have to be more diligent in the future watching every move both of your dogs make - could happen with another male too.
     
  13. loves-da-pits

    loves-da-pits New Member

    I'm not here to criticize, and I usually don't respond to these any more. But I think my hormones are a little out of wack today or something.

    I'm still amazed that people are shocked that a male dog that is not neutered and a female that is not spayed, find themselves with the prospect of having a pregnant dog.

    Unless you're and experienced breeder, why is it so difficult to take in a dog, cat, bunny rabbit, or whatever and have them spayed and neutered.

    It should be NUMERAL UNO on your list of things to do before you pick out a name or look into the kind of food you're going to feed.

    It's just so simple to do. The dogs are healthier. Females that are not spayed run the risk if mammory cancer. Males unaltered run the risk of testicular cancer. That in itself should make a person want to spay and neuter. Then there's the litter of pups who have the potential to breed more pups and more pups and more pups. More dogs that end up dead on the streets and dying in shelters.

    It's such an easy fix, such an easy solution! Why, Why, Why can't people see. That's what's so wonderful about living in America, we are able to do this.
     
  14. leo2

    leo2 New Member

    Did you ever think maybe she want to breed her dog? You dont have no right to tell her she is wrong for wanting to! Im gonna breed my shipoo when she reaches a year old! so go ahead and say i cant cause it dont matter to me!
     
  15. puttin510

    puttin510 New Member

    Leo2:That coming from someone that took home a four week old puppy. You really need to learn more about dogs in general.
     
  16. loves-da-pits

    loves-da-pits New Member

    leo2:No, I won't tell you can't breed you shipoo when she is a year old, but I'll tell you you won't be too smart if you do.
     
  17. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    She WAS intending to breed the dog, but not so young. And no one who isn't VERY educated about breeding dogs should EVER do it. It's not a way to make money. It's a HUGE responsibility and can endanger the life of your dog.

    If you want to breed your shipoo when you obviously know so little about dogs (after all, you bought a 4-week-old puppy) then you had better spend the next 2-3 years LEARNING. Your dog should be that old anyway before you breed her.

    And of course you will need to line up homes BEFORE she even gets pregnant, right? Lord knows we don't need more so-called "breeders" filling up the shelters.


    Jamiya
     
  18. charmedagain

    charmedagain New Member

    Hi first off Leo why did you buy a puppy at 4weeks old????
    Puppies should leave there parents no earlier than 8weeks of age as they are still learning from there mother and littermates.

    Why do you want to breed your shipoo and who says 1year old is a good age to breed?

    2 year old is the youngest a female should be before mating.
    What you going to do if your female never gets pregnant keep putting her through the stress hoping that she will fall pregnant?

    Do you know when a dog has there first heat cycle how long the heat cycles last and when the best time during the cycle to mate?

    Do you know the background of the pup?
    Was both parents hip,eye heart scored I BET NOT?
    Are both parents of good quality and i mean have you seen papers to prove this?

    Are there any bad traits in the bloodline?
    Do you know what to do if your female becomes ill during her pregnancy and no vet is available?
    Do you know what to do if there is complications during the birth and there is no vet available?
    Can you cope with lets say your female has 6 puppies can you cope with bottle feeding them every 1hour around the clock keeping them warm if something was to happen to your female or she rejected the litter?

    Have you enough space for a whelping box and room for the female to stretch her legs?

    Do you know what you need well before the birth begins?
    Do you know the gestation period of the average dog?
    Could you cope with losing your female during birth or during her pregnancy which does happen?
    Should mother and her litter be taken to the vets afterwards to be checked over?
    do you know the signs of eclampsia?
    DO you know the signs for pyometra and mastitis?
    Would you know the tell tale signs that something is wrong with your female?
    Can you afford to look after these puppies if you never find homes for any of them?
    Do you have the resourses to pay for vet treatment your female needs during and after her pregnancy?

    Is your female up todate on her shots and worming treatment?
    Has she been hip,eye and heart scored?

    Sorry but sitting there behind your computer saying that the other person may want to breed and we should not tell her otherwise is outrages we know she is wanting to breed later on when the pup is older but at 10months old the pup is still developing and should not be put through this stress and strain thats why 2years old is the best time. The demand put on an adult dogs is alot during pregnanct so remember that when you decide to breed your pup when she is 1year old.

    THe owner of the 10month old pup knows the risks of allowing the pregnancy to progress to both her and the litter.

    I do know what i am talking about i breed german shepherds and i have seen some of the problems if not all that can and will go wrong.

    So like the others say you need to do alot more research and get alot more knowlegde on breeding and trust me even then you will be suprised at the risk of breeding.

    Just my opinion sorry but it annoys me when people just come out with well i am going to breed.

    You should only breed if to better the breed not just for the sake of little puppies and the money made on them as your in for one hell of a suprise when you realise the money made from the pups goes straight to the vets for the treatment female and her litter have recieved and for the larger amounts of food needed to keep mum and litter in perfect condition.

    mike
     
  19. Samsintentions

    Samsintentions New Member

    Whaooo GO mike!!

    DUH, Learn. I'm sorry, but Leo your need to do some serious research, K?
    1st of all. You haven't a clueas to what your talking about. I do. I not only breed ACD's but I do private rescuing as well. SO not only do I see the output and consequences of morons like you. I have to deal with them.
    I know the turmoils, the costs and the heart aches of people like you who don't give a Gosh darn, and just breed for the hell of it. I guarentee that 1 out of 10 pups will find a loving forever home. do you know what happens to the rest? Do you?


    This younglady came here for advice. we as dog lovers, breeders, and caregivers gave her the best advice we have. Seeing all the cards stacked up against her and the horible things that could happen, we told her abort the litter, and risk no problems in the future.

    Now I'm hoping she went home, and made the right decision. If she truely loves her dog. then I'm hoping she did. If not, thats her problem and she'll have to pay the consequences if something goes wrong.
     

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