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Help!! My puppy still dun get it!!

Discussion in 'Dogs - all breeds / types' started by sereneric, Apr 17, 2004.

  1. sereneric

    sereneric New Member

    Im a new pup owner and jus bought a 3mth old maltese. The moment we r home, i trained him on the papers in the toilet. Now it's the 4th day, he still pee n poo around the house! Everytime I catch him, i would scold him n put him in the toilet. ive read that it's not gd to scold but this is really FrUstRatIng!! He just dun seems to get it?? I think Im too impatient but I cant be with him all the time as I hv to work. I jus put him in the toilet w the papers around. Once I let him out, he pee n poo again in just a few minutes! I dun like him to be confined to the toilet all day cos i find it cruel.. but no one's ard to look aft him.. i got no choice.. my hm has no space for a crate... #-o
  2. Hi! Congradulations on the new puppy! would love to see pics!

    I posted this info for another member awhile back, perhaps it will help you also..It's LONG so hang in there! but has very good info....

    Perhaps this will help a little....I know it's LONG.....sorry! but it has some very good info...Good luck to you!

    Some Basic Concepts for You to Understand
    Dogs develop elimination habits during their first few months of life.
    Dogs do not want to eliminate where they rest.
    Being creatures of habit, dogs will return to their "usual spot" whenever it is convenient.
    Dogs can be conditioned (trained) to react to a conditioned stimulus in a certain way. (they can be taught to eliminate when you say a word over and over).
    A behavior is likely to be repeated if it is positively reinforced. (You will therefore be using food treats and praise to reinforce elimination at the proper time, in the proper place


    The easiest way to housetrain your dog is to use a crate or cage in order to use the dog’s instinct against soiling his or her den. If your dog is not accustomed to the crate, leave the door open and feed your dog one or two meals in the crate then close the door for the next meal. Once your dog is used to the crate you can start feeding outside of the crate. Put bedding in the crate to make it comfortable and tie the door open when the dog is not confined to the crate. As a final note you may have to make the crate smaller by bunching up bedding in the back of the crate if you have a large crate and a small puppy. If the crate is too big the pup may still eliminate in one corner and sleep in the other.

    The most important keys to housetraining are close supervision and a regular schedule. Feed your dog at the same times each day and only offer water at scheduled intervals of about two hours. Don’t give your dog any water for at least three hours before bed. Let your dog out to eliminate after every meal, nap, and play. If he does not eliminate, try again in a few minutes. Keep your dog in the crate at any time that you cannot supervise, and while your dog is not in the crate watch for any signs that he needs to eliminate (such as sniffing the floor, scratching the door, whining, and pacing). As a side note to this, do make sure that you have play sessions indoors and outdoors during the day. Once your puppy has eliminated, he should be good for at least 30 minutes, depending on his age.

    When you let your dog out to eliminate, you should go out too. When you see that your dog is about to eliminate, repeat a word or phrase (such as "hurry up") that your dog will associate with the act. You will definitely appreciate this tool when you have to take your dog on a long car trip.

    At night, keep your dog in the crate. If she whines after being quiet for several hours she probably needs to go out. Be patient, and you will find that the number of outings will decrease as your pup learns to control herself. If at any time you are having problems during housetraining (as with any training), simply go back a step – you were probably pushing your dog too far. Of course adult dogs can be expected to go longer without eliminating than puppies can.


    No matter how careful you are, accidents are bound to happen. When they do, do not use folk remedies and do not even punish your dog unless you catch her in the act. Your dog or puppy might not remember the accident and may only get confused. Consider it your mistake for not supervising closely enough. Just put your dog in the crate and clean up the mess with a deoderizing cleanser or vinegar. Don’t use detergent or ammonia because the smell of ammonia may encourage the dog to soil in the same place again. Don’t let your dog see you cleaning up the mess. If she does happen to remember doing it, you do not want her to see you as her maid.

    If you do catch your dog in the act, shout "No", clap your hands, or otherwise distract him from the act of eliminating. Take your dog outside and wait until he eliminates while repeating your chosen word or phrase. Once your dog has eliminated, praise your dog because he has now eliminated in the correct place.

    City dogs

    In the city it is not always practical to housetrain a young puppy as described above. Eventually you will want your pup to eliminate outside, but if you live at the top of an apartment building you probably do not want to be taking your puppy outside every hour. As well, until your pup is fully vaccinated it is dangerous to let your dog walk where other dogs have been.

    In this case you will have to paper-train your puppy. Cover the entire floor of your pup’s confined area (eg. the kitchen) with newspaper. Praise your pup for eliminating on the newspaper and use the key word or phrase. Change the paper and remove some of the paper from the other side of the room. Continue this until there is only a small area of paper left. You may instead want to use special housetraining pads that can be bought at pet stores. After the pup is immunized at 16 weeks, take the paper away and use the crate to train your pup to go outside as described above. It may be necessary to take a sheet of newspaper outside so that your pup gets the idea.

    If you want your dog to scratch or whine at the door, you may want to try the following procedure. Once you are down to one sheet of newspaper, move the newspaper progressively towards the door. Finally, slide the paper under the door so that only a small corner is visible. Watch your dog carefully to see if he whines or scratches at the door to try to get to the paper and take him outside immediately. Praise him profusely once he has eliminated outside.

    Good luck! Susan
  3. heaven

    heaven New Member

    i have a 5 month old puppy and it took about 2 weeks for her to really get the concept of where she had to go do her business....you have to remember they are babies....be patient
  4. lanena322

    lanena322 New Member

    i agree. some pups learn faster than others, but they are babies and will take time to learn. I started paper training Nana when she was 4 weeks old ( I know I got her young, long story) since she came to us so young. It took her only a few days to learn she was to go on the paper, but 2 weeks or so for her to begin to use the paper all the time.

    Just use lots of praise (or treats, whichever your dog loves more) when your pup does use the paper. If not, confine her with a pen or crate, or maybe a small area of the kitchen and line the area with newspapers. Good luck!
  5. sereneric

    sereneric New Member

    Thanx folks!! But..

    Hey.. thanx folks for advising me!! I will remember all of your advice in mind! :) I think Niki has started to get the concept of doing his buisness on papers.. the moment he gets up in the morning, i would bring him to the kitchen lined only one corner of papers.. hoping he will do it there. Surprisingly, he did it there!! Im so happy that i gave him treats and praises. This is the second time he did this. BUT i wanted him to do it in the bathroom! The past few days ive been putting him in the bathroom lined with papers all over the floor but he still wont pass anything till i let him out into the kitchen..and he did it on the papers which ive only lined one corner of it! He would whine to get out. I felt pity for him that i started to let him out after locking him in for a few mins.Does this mean that he is afraid of going to the bathroom bcoz ive been scolding him and locking him in there whenever i found a mess outside. I jus dun get it!? Can anyone advise me ? Really appreciate ur help folks! :mrgreen:
  6. lanena322

    lanena322 New Member

    hmm, i dont know about your pup being afraid. i'd think he is wanting to get out of the bathroom because he has formed the habit of going in the kitchen. You see, I heard that at first it isnt the actual newspaper that the pup knows he should go on, instead its the spot. Once he is constantly going on the paper you can start to move the paper, bit by bit until it reaches the bathroom. If you move the paper too much then youre going too fast.

    But i must admit this method is a BIG pain. I mean, it is very inconvenient to have newspapers in the middle of your living room! I know Nana started off on paper, and I tried this method, but it was so inconvenient that I got her use to a new spot, not far from her old one, then when I wanted to start doing outside training I had her leash and papers by the door and whenever she got 'that look' id run outside with the papers and throw some on the floor. She learned VERY quick, but never actually used the papers outside :shock:
  7. sereneric

    sereneric New Member

    Thanx a million for your advice julie!.. i think im too stressed up these days over how to housetrain Niki.. I think he must be mentally "tortured" by me (poor puppy).. he is still a baby. :| will keep u guys updated when he's improved. :wink:

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