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HELP!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Dogs - all breeds / types' started by doxiegirl07, Oct 9, 2004.

  1. doxiegirl07

    doxiegirl07 New Member

    ok my dogs ,they had puppies,are both registered but one is for akc,this one is mine, and the other is ckc, he is not mine, can the puppies still be registered and if so under which sould i register them :?:
     
  2. nern

    nern New Member

    I don't think you can register the puppies in a situation like this although I'm not positive about that. I'm sure another poster will know for sure.
     
  3. gwen13

    gwen13 New Member

    [edit] Cut my message out; I had the situation completely off. See below!
     
  4. nern

    nern New Member

    My understanding is that one parent of these puppies is AKC registered and the other parent is CKC registered. Because the parents are not both registered at the same kennel club, the poster is wondering if the puppies can still be registered with either of the kennel clubs.
     
  5. gwen13

    gwen13 New Member

    Wow..I totally misunderstood. I thought she was talking about 2 completely different puppies with different registries or something, ignore my post up there then!

    Then the answer is no, both the sire and dam must be registered with the same club in order for the litter to be able to be registered. They wouldn't be allowed to be registered in either club, unfortunately.
     
  6. charmedagain

    charmedagain New Member

    Hi it depends on the kennel club rules the best thing to do is contact the Akc and tell them your dog is registered with them and you would like to register the litter but the male is not registered to that club you may find they will still register the litter.
    The reason for this is because when some people breed they cant always get a Sire that is registered with the same club as there Dam so it is possible i know here in the uk the Kennel Club here will still register the litter providing you can still provide the sires pedigree so they can have it checked out and make sure its legitimate.

    Again contact them and ask if it is possible and what there rules are as different clubs have different registration rules.

    Mike
     
  7. gwen13

    gwen13 New Member

    The puppies could not be AKC registered though and they will not make exceptions. Because the AKC the most popular/well-known and well credited kennel club in the US their rules are very strict. You could see them for yourself here: http://www.akc.org/registration/registeralitter.cfm
    Also found in the FAQs:

    "What if one (or both) of the parents of my litter is not AKC registered?

    Chapter 3, Section 4 of the AKC Rules Applying to Registration and Discipline states:
    "No individual dog from a litter whelped in the United States of America of which both parents are registered with The American Kennel Club shall be eligible for registration unless the litter has first been registered by the person who owned the dam at the time of whelping, or by the lessee if the dam was leased at the time of whelping, and, further, that an application to register such litter is filed with The American Kennel Club no later than six (6) months from the date of whelping of the litter."




    The CKC on the other hand might allow the puppies to be registered, I did a little extra research.

    If you have a female that is registered with the AKC then you may register her with the CKC too. So to CKC register the puppies you would have to register your female with the CKC first, then maybe they would allow the puppies to be registered too, but their website did not specify.

    If yours were the male and he was AKC, then the owner of the CKC female could have CKC registered the puppies. This would only work if the female was the one registered with the CKC though, because their rules state if the sire does not belong to the owner of the dam who gave birth to the puppies and is registered with a different kennel club approved by the CKC then they could be registered with a copy of the male's registration papers.
     
  8. charmedagain

    charmedagain New Member

    They may well be a well credited club i know all about kennel club rules all my dogs are registered pedigree's and i do breed them the clubs do make exceptions to rules only to s certain extent they will not advitise this it the only way to find out and explain the situation is by calling the kennel club direct.

    Usually they will accept a 3generation pedigree but in situations like this they will only accept a 5or 6 generation pedigree also the owner of the sire will need to disclosed aswell so all relevant checks can be made.

    Mike
     
  9. gwen13

    gwen13 New Member

    But what you know about your country's kennel club rules would not apply to my countrys kennel club rules. You can read what I pasted above directly off their website what it states about litters with a parent that is unregistered. "Thus, the parents of any dog must be registered and the litter must be registered prior to any individual dog being eligible for registration."
     
  10. charmedagain

    charmedagain New Member

    All kennel club rules are literally the same.
    A woman i talk to on the internet has her Dam registered with the AkC and her dog was artificially inseminated with imported Sperm from a different country and her litter was still registered even though the sire was not with the same club.

    Exeptions can be made and again they will not put this on any of there sites as its only in certain curcimstances will they make expections to this rule...

    One of my sires was imported from germany when he was 16weeks old and is not registered here in the uk but all my litters are registered with the Uk Kennel Club They made this exception because my breed is a registered breed and that his parentage can be checked and confirmed.

    Mike
     
  11. kindness_001

    kindness_001 New Member

    I'm pretty sure you can register your female with CKC and they will register the litter then. Akc does accept some overseas dogs but they will not register a dog here if they are not both AKC or from overseas.
     

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