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Please help me...

Discussion in 'Dogs - all breeds / types' started by kira1386, Sep 11, 2004.

  1. kira1386

    kira1386 New Member

    I dont know what to do anymore. Bug has some serious lonely issues i think, everytime i leave him downstairs and go out or just upstairs for food or bathroom, whatever it may be. he pees on my bed. its not everytime, but its been alot lately. i've tried scolding him. putting him in the cage for the rest of the day, night sometimes the next day or two and only out for potty. i've tried rubbing his nose in it and yelling at him, telling him its bad. but he's still doing it. i put him in the cage when i leave the house if my moms not down here with him. but it becomes a pain in my rear when i have to put him in there everytime I have to go potty. any suggestions??? :(
     
  2. 4Dogsihave

    4Dogsihave New Member

    Is there a way to keep him out of the room your bed is in? I would also throuroughly clean the area and get the smell out. I wouldent rub his nose in it that does nothing. Also crate training isnt meant for punishment so keeping him in there for an entire day or several days at a time isnt a great idea. If your only option is to put him in the crate when you have to leave the room to use the bathroom I would do that, it prevents him from being able to pee on the bed and just let him out when you get back.
     
  3. kira1386

    kira1386 New Member

    yeah theres really no way to keep him out, i sleep in the basement, thats where he stays also and its just one huge room...but i guess ill just have t throw his booty in the cage everytime i go upstairs :-\ thanks tho
     
  4. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    Or bring him with you. Tether him to your belt or carry him, and set him down in the bathroom with you when you have to go.

    You may want to read up on separation anxiety. Here's a good book: http://www.dogwise.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=DTB667

    Scolding or punishing a dog really doesn't do anything, especially if you don't catch him in the act. He has no idea what he has done wrong.
     
  5. lil96

    lil96 New Member

    The stuff you are doing for your dog isn't very good. He needs positive reinforcement, not negative punishment. If you get mad at the dog for using the bathroom they learn it is bad to use the bathroom, not that it is bad to use the bathroom in that spot. Bug needs to think of his crate (you shoudn't think of it as a cage, cage = trap, sttuck, can't get out, in jail) as his seperate little place where Bug can go and have quiet time and when you get angry and leave him in there for sometime (hours are ok, days not ok) that isn't very nice.
    If it is seperation anxiety, you need to leave Bug inside his crate with plenty of toys, maybe something that belongs to you that smells like you or there is always the ticking clock to put under his bed. Because I would worry if you always take Bug with you around the house then he won't get used to you being away and if you are gone for a few minutes at a time you can gradually stay gone more time (hopefully!) good luck.
     
  6. kira1386

    kira1386 New Member

    yeah see my problem is. he cant be upstairs in the rest of the house, we have an 75- 80lb dog that is only 6 months old thats up stairs. and he just wants to play, he doesnt relize that paws that are bigger than bug hurt him when he pins him down lol. but i dont know. thank you for the suggestions tho!
     
  7. Mary_NH

    Mary_NH New Member

    I'm confused - you are saying the puppy has to stay downstairs cause upstairs there is a puppy that is bigger than the puppy downstairs? Why not introduce the 2 of them so they can learn to play? Supervised play time then everyone can live together. Is the puppy confined to your bedroom? Does the puppy get a chance to go anywhere outside of downstairs? I'm thinking boredom might be leading to anxiety problems. Why not some supervised visits with the bigger puppy
     
  8. kira1386

    kira1386 New Member

    no you dont understand, one- my basement where bug stays is huge. and the dog upstairs,....they've had supervised playtime, it doesnt work. bug always winds up getting hurt by big dog. and its not like he doesnt get attention. im always down here playing with him, running around with him. hes got tons of toys all over the place. he gets treats when he goes pee and poo outside. i just dont know
     
  9. aussylover

    aussylover New Member

    In to reply to your please help me!

    :0009: I'll be truthfull with you it sounds like you are making up excuses for what you are doing! and personally what i'm gathering is this puppy is being locked up in a basement room majority of the time, how do you expect this puppy to socialize with other dogs or in your case what your asking help on pottying on your bed because he doesn't know what to do with him self when he's alone. You've got him so used to you and just your husband that when you guy's leave he gets mad! :x :cry:. Puppies will be puppies they have to learn boundries with eachother but your case you didn't give them enough time to do that , your puppy will be fine let him socialize or he'll have problems as he grows up! Good luck aussylover :eek:
     
  10. kira1386

    kira1386 New Member

    maybe its just cuz im having a really bad night but it doesnt seem like anyone understands...he Cannot play with the dog upstairs. hes to big and has hurt him a few times. i dont want him to kill my dog. hes got tons of room to run around with and he plays with the cats down here, and the cats play back. he goes on car rides with me allll the time and i sit outside with him for long periods of time and i am down here with him most of the time, hes not used to just me, he loves everyone. anyone he sees or know hes always happy to see. but i dont know. im to tired to explain anymore tonight. thank you for all your help guys.
    night night ](*,)
     
  11. aussylover

    aussylover New Member

    in reply please help me

    #-o I'm not understanding why you seemed like you got upset with responses! We only did what you ask! If you can't handle other people's opinion don't post it. :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
     
  12. TommyGiiirl

    TommyGiiirl New Member

    In my opinion, I think that a few people were a bit hard on you about socializing your little puppy with big puppy. They must have misunderstood. An 80 pound dog at six months is much too big to be playing with a little puppy the size of big puppy's paws. I think you are doing the right thing by keeping the little one safe. I think they are right about the socializing in general though. Find some play mates that are suitable in size and try to have frequent visits. The crate is a great idea for putting puppy in when you go upstairs or out of the house. I agree that if you let puppy follow you around everywhere, you will just increase the separation problem. I would love to take my 5 month old with me everywhere but I don't becuz of that very reason. He is very needy for he was quite sick and he relied on me for everything. He would freak when I'd leave the room. But with time and patients, he is better being alone. I find what works really good for him is I hide his toys when I'm around and when I go out I give them all to him. I confine him to the laundry room with all his toys and I sneak out. He thinks the way out is though the back door for that is where I leave with him for a car ride. We never leave through the front. So I sneak out the front and he thinks I am just upstairs. I also live in the basement. One big room just like you. So try putting puppy in the crate with all his/her toys and leave the room for 5 minutes. Then let puppy out and put toys away. (except one chew toy if still teething) Then repeat and try for longer. And so on. Do this till you can leave for a few hours. Then once puppy settles down and is okay with your absents, then try letting him/her out of crate and leave toys in your room and go upstairs for 5 minutes. See if puppy pees on your bed. Maybe put plastic down and an old blanket on top. Just in case. If he/she pees, back to the crate when you leave. If all is well then try longer untill you can leave for a few hours. It might work for a while then boom, pees on the bed. Don't dismay. Just do the crate thing again till this faze is over. It's a slow process and it takes alot a patients but if you put the work in, you will solve the problem. Be consistant above all things. You can do it!!! The work is all at the beginning of parenthood. If you do the work, you will have a great pet. You are lucky your puppy just pees on your bed. I had a lab that bored a hole through my couch big enough for me to climb down. LOL!!! I can laugh now but holy #$%&!!!! did I freak at the time! HAha!
    Good luck with your baby!
    You'll be fine!
    Cynthia
     
  13. kira1386

    kira1386 New Member

    thank you cynthia...that was my point. the dog upstairs is way to big and has hurt him many time, my puppy only weighs 9.4lbs. compaired to 80....i dont want him getting seriously hurt or worse, killed. Bug was also (like yours) a puppy that was very very sick for a very long time and he pretty much depended on me for his life. literaly. and now, maybe i am a little over protective, can you blame me? but he does play with other dogs, quite often. in fact we saw another puggle today at the store! it was so neat, only time i've seen another one outside bugs litter and she was adorable! and its not that i didnt appreciate everyones advice, i did. i was just having a really bad day with some personal things, and i guess it just seemed like no one understood what i meant. and i did get a little upset, sorry! :-(im better now tho and not so crabby :) but i do thank you all, and thank you cynthia very much. helped me put to words what i couldnt, with misunderstanding and all! :|
     
  14. TommyGiiirl

    TommyGiiirl New Member

    PS Squeaky toys are the best!!!!
    I leave about 3 for my puppy when I go out.
    As soon as they hit the floor all you can hear is squeak, squeak, squeak.
    They come in all different shapes and sizes so you should be able to find the appropriate size for puppy's mouth.
    Take Care!
     
  15. puggleowner

    puggleowner New Member

    Hi Kira- as a fellow puggle owner I can tell you that they need A LOT of attention, maybe more so than many other dogs. ALso, they have lots of energy and need to get lots of exercise, so locking your Bug in a cage all day for 1-2 days at a time is NOT a good idea AT ALL. If Bug get's upset and destructive when you leave, then you need to put him in his crate when you are gone, but THAT IS THE ONLY TIME you should be crating him, when you are not around to watch him. We still leave Cameron in her pen when we leave the house, because if we leave her out she gets separation anxiety and scratches the door to pieces and tears other things up. Since we only put her in her pen when we are gone, and because we always give her kongs and treats to go in there, I think she actually looks forward to being in her "safe place" when we are gone. If we had put her in there for punishment and for extended periods of time, however, I'm sure she would not like it so well.

    Ok, on to the bigger dog issue- I understand that you are scared to let the two play, but as they both get older, they really should be fine being around eachother. I know many people that own a very big and small dog- for example, I have a friend who has a mastiff and a pug. They are the best of friends, and the Mastiff has learned to be gentle with the pug when they play. Most dogs will learn how to treat other dogs by signals given off during play, i.e. yelping, etc. Especially if the two dogs live together. IT sounds like both BUg and the other pup like to play and seem to have good tempermants, so I as they both get older and less rough in play, they should be fine together, but the key is introducing them and letting them play for short, supervised periods so that they both have a chance to learn how to play with eachother.

    This is the most critical time in Bug's development, and if you don't give him enough socialization with other dogs and people, it could lead to serious problems in the future.
     
  16. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    I still think it would be a good idea if there's a way to put the two dogs "together" for some time every day, even if that means separating them with a gate. That way they can get used to each other while still keeping the little one safe. Then when Bug is bigger and can play with your big dog, they will already be used to each other.

    Also, I would definitely start teaching your big dog two commands - "gentle" and "enough". That way when Bug does start playing with him, it will be easier to control the interaction.
     

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