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Please read Dakota is sick...

Discussion in 'Dogs - all breeds / types' started by QueenyJr, May 27, 2005.

  1. QueenyJr

    QueenyJr New Member

    Dakota, the male puppy I kept out of Aasiyahs litter that was born in late September/early October… is at the vets and has been for two days. We got him fixed (aren’t you proudJ) and ever since the surgery he has had diarrhea and threw up twice but the second time it was bad like 20 times all through the house…brown water like…it was nasty….they said he could have parvo but since he was vaccinated for it they doubt it…so they are waiting for him to go to the bathroom (if he was at home he already would have went like 15 times, little brat.) Poor guy he looks at me so sad when I come home from school and he has messed in his cage he just looks at me with his ears off to the side (ya know how German shepherds give you those weird/cute looks lol) of his head like mom help I don’t feel good. So I don’t know we will see what happens but I miss him so much…he is like my son…


    oh yeah and there isn't anyhting wrong with his surgery, like the stitches and stuff were fine
     
  2. honeybears

    honeybears New Member

    is he on antibiotics? he could have gotten an infection from the surgery, poor dakota, let us know what you fnd out
     
  3. DMikeM

    DMikeM New Member

    Pepsi got Parvo at one year old and was vaccinated for it as a pup. Sure sounds like parvo. Whatever it may be I hope he gets well fast.
     
  4. Shineillusion

    Shineillusion New Member

    A lot of those dogs who were vaccinated for parvo and get it anyway didn't really get parvo. They contracted campylobacter infections. The campylobacter bacteria will cause a positive parvo test, and the symptoms are identical. Treatment is identical too, so few if any vets bother to differentiate between the two unless there's a compelling reason to know for sure.

    The biggest compelling reason would be if human members of the family are also suffering symptoms, because campylobacter can infect humans, while parvo usually doesn't. It may also be necessary to do a culture and sensitivity if the infection doesn't respond to the original antibiotics.
     
  5. ilovemycockatiels

    ilovemycockatiels New Member

    Hi I'm getting a puppy soon and I am kind of worried about Parvo. How do puppies get it? and What age do I get her vaccinated for it? What exactly is parvo, what does it do to the dog?
     
  6. QueenyJr

    QueenyJr New Member

    Hey everyone,
    Dakota came home and they have no idea why he had been messing in his cage and stuff and all over the house, I had to get a stool sample and they are going to check that, they sent home amoxicillin. Hmm...yeah i am in pain right now because of some problems with my back so I can't really think of anything else to say.

    ILovecockatiels- Dakota was vaccinated by me at about 10 weeks old, hmm...I would just take your puppy to the vets when you get him or her...good luck!!
     
  7. OnixRevolution

    OnixRevolution New Member

    Parvo is horrible. My rottie had Parvo when he was a puppy and even though he was vaccinated for it, he got it anyway. So here we go...

    It can be very hard to successfully vaccinate a puppy for this disease because the antibody protection the puppy acquires from its mother can interfere with vaccination. Parvo is an extremely hardy virus which can live in infected feces for about 5 months, giving conditions are right. Most household disinfectants will not kill it, though the best known way to kill it is with chlorine bleah. Though it's not an airborne virus, it can be moved by way of someone stepping in doggie doo and bringing it home, another dog's feces, birds, and even car tires. It takes 7-10 days to show symptoms, which consist of fever, lethargy, depression, and loss of apitite. Then goes on to severe bloody diarrhea and vomiting, usually foul smelling and yellow in color. The end result is severe dehydration, shock, and then death. It can also attack the dog's heart, which will cause congestive heart failure.
    There is no cure, so the vet can only give an IV of fluids, since the virus attacks the lining of the digestive system and are not able to absorb liquids and nutrients. But with prompt treatment, 80% of puppies will live.

    The best way to avoid Parvo is to get a vaccination schedule beginning when the puppies are 6-8 weeks of age(this vaccine is included in the distemper shot). Puppies should not be allowed to socialize or frequent places where alot of dogs have been for about 2 weeks after the last vaccination. Just to play it safe.
    If you have a dog that is 2 or younger, bring them in for a booster.

    Hope some of that info helped.
     
  8. DeLaUK

    DeLaUK New Member

    Vaccines shouldnt start until 8 weeks...in some cases where the pup has not been nursed at all by the dam Ive seen the first one given at 5-6 weeks, they get another vaccine every 3 weeks until they are 4 months old (a total of 4)...some breeds, Rotts, GSD's Danes, Pits, Am Staffs and Dobies....I know quite a few vets now that will give an additional 2 vaccines, they are in the 'high risk' groups. Personally I never recommend that people give the vaccines themselves, only for the reason that Ive seen too many pups coming down with parvo that have been vaccinated after the owners have purchased the vax at stores, and some people think that only one vaccine is necessary, its not, they are not protected until after the full series has finished, one vet I worked for actually 'gauranteed' their vaccines that went into effect the day the last vax was given and would cover all costs if the dog did come down with it, they never had any dog come back with it....the stores do not always keep the vaccines in temperature required to keep them effective, when a delivery comes into a vet hospital they are refridgerated straight away...or at least within a short time of the delivery and until they are refridgerated they are left in the sealed box that will have ice packs in there, Ive seen boxes of vaccines sitting around on floors and on shelves in stores...nicely warming up to room temperature and making them useless....just because they are in a fridge when you buy them doesnt mean they have been refridgerated the whole time.

    Bleach is the best thing to get rid of it from your home but it has no residual effect. There are other products available, some are only available to vets but check with some boarding kennels what they use, the rescues I worked with were always able to get Rocal and Synphenol. There is some debate now about whether or not parvo is airborne, it never used to be....maybe 'mutation'....different strains??? It can stay in the ground for (most reports say) 5-10 years....Ive seen reports that say longer, and it usually is worse after a lot of rain. It is highly contagious. And as onix said, the suvival rate is up in the 80% range when treated in hospital.
     
  9. Jamiya

    Jamiya New Member

    Actually, only one vaccine is necessary if it is given after the mother's antibodies have definitely gone away. I believe they can actually test for this, but they never do. It is cheaper and easier (for the vet) to just give a series of shots and figure by the time they get the last one, it will be effective.

    Giving the combination shot that they all do now is VERY hard on the immune system. It actually damages it, rather than building it up.

    Whole Dog Journal has a good article this month about vaccinations (http://www.whole-dog-journal.com - there's a 14-day free trial so you can read the whole article). They advise that you find out what diseases your pup is likely to come into contact with and ONLY vaccinate for those. They also recommend single shots, at least two weeks apart.

    Here is a very sensible Toller kennel's vaccination protocol, plus info about why they do it this way:

    http://www.tollwest.com/vaccine.html
     

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