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lynnhaz · Jun 26, 2004

today has been a difficult day. max had watery stools this am. absolutely no form to them at all. he has been off his meds per doctor recommendation since mon. yesterday the doc started tylan powder again. he has not ate all day. a little lethargic. i am scared. the doc (specialist) wants to start him on metronidazole along with the tylan powder. i am just so stressed.... i am afraid he is sick, and maybe wont get well. i know its just my negative thinking but otis died just three months ago and i think i am still so sensitive to that...

lynnhaz · Jun 26, 2004

the other thing that happened is that he threw up this morning. by the looks of it he somehow got hold of my sweatpants string and ate it. he threw up a portion of the string. i talked to the vet about it. he is concerned that if he continues to not eat, he could have an obstruction. i am beside myself. he just threw up again, liquid and yellow looking. its 1 am in the morning. my vet is out of town. the specialist is going out of town tomorrow. i am calling all three first thing in the morning (my regular vet, the specialist and the emergency center). i think he needs xrays or something.

on the other hand. since he has been off the meds since monday, and only resumed yesterday....maybe his stomach is just upset because he has so much irritation.

i am totally beside myself...in fear. :cry:

vene · Jun 26, 2004

Hey Lynn old buddy, hang in there. I'm so sorry about Max. Maybe his little stomach just can't handle too many med changes within such a short period of time. Here's some info that you probably already know:

http://www.georgetownanimalclinic.com/325520.html

Hopefully you got a hold of your vet by now and they can help Max right away. let us know what happens.

Lots of xoxoxoxo's from Rene, Monty, Milo, + Pumpkin

vene · Jun 26, 2004

Here some interesting info about causes of vomiting. But don't read this until you've talked to the vets. There's too much info here that might make you second guess about Max's condition.

The Vomiting Cat
W. Mark Cousins, DVM, diplomate American Board of Veterinary
Practitioners (Feline Practice)

One of the most common problems that your veterinarian sees is a cat that can’t seem to hold its food down. This is not only a housekeeping problem for the cat owner (cats only seem to vomit on expensive rugs or couches), but it is a source of discomfort or stress to the cat. Vomiting is the act involving the expulsion of stomach contents. Most of the time, vomiting is a secondary sign that is caused by another disease condition in the cat. The key, then, to curing the vomiting cat is being able to diagnose and treat the underlying disease process that is causing the vomiting in the
first place. There are different diseases that must be considered in a cat that has acute vomiting episodes versus a cat that has been vomiting for a while. And, sometimes, the vomiting itself has to be treated as a discrete clinical problem, if it is causing too many problems in the patient.
Vomiting is a complicated act that involves many interconnected parts. First, there is the neurologic contribution to the act of vomiting. There are basically four areas that can become involved in a cat’s vomiting reflex. And these areas can act independently or in concert with each other. Some are control areas and some are areas involved in stimulating vomition. The first important neurologic area is the vomiting center of the brain. This part of the brain (located in the medulla oblongata) is the main controlling switch that turns on or off the reflex for the cat to vomit. If the vomiting center is stimulated for whatever reason, the cat will vomit. In people,
the vomiting center can be stimulated directly by psychologic or visual input. This is not known to occur in then cat. The next neurologic control is a triggering area or a receptor in the brain known (appropriately) as the chemoreceptor trigger zone (CRTZ). The CRTZ, located in the area
postrema, is “wired” to the vomiting center. It’s usually triggered by some toxin or noxious agent that is carried to the brain by the blood. Once stimulated, the CRTZ sends messages to the vomiting center to activate it and, in turn, to cause the kitty to vomit. Many of us have experienced the nauseous feeling of an episode of motion sickness. In fact, many cats vomit in their carriers on the car ride to the veterinarian’s office because they don’t often ride in the car. This vomiting reflex involves a third part of the nervous system known as the vestibular system. The main parts of the vestibular system are located in the inner ear and in that part of the brain known as the cerebellum. The vestibular system is involved in the amazing
ability of balance that cats possess and in the brain’s conscious knowledge of the body’s orientation in space. When the vestibular system is over-stimulated as it is in motion sickness, it sends activating messages to the CRTZ which, in turn, activates the vomiting center. And the cat
will, then, vomit. Finally, there are other parts of the nervous system that get involved in the act of vomiting as well. Stimulation of the back of the cat’s throat, as with people, will cause a cat to wretch and vomit. And pain or discomfort in and of the abdominal organs such as the pancreas, intestine, stomach, and abdominal cavity itself can cause a cat to vomit by sending signals to the vomiting center in the brain.

Once the nervous system is stimulated, the muscular system has to be activated and coordinatedto achieve the act of vomiting. There are three components to the act of vomiting. The first component is nausea. Although it is still undecided if cats feel the classic nausea that we do,
outward signs of nausea in the cat include increased salivation, vocalization, yawning, and lip licking. The saliva that is swallowed during the increase in the saliva in the mouth goes to help protect the esophagus from irritating effect of the gastric acid that refluxes through this organ
during the act of vomiting. It protects the esophagus because saliva is rich in bicarbonate content which helps neutralize the stomach’s acid.
The second phase of vomiting is called retching. This phase is characterized by a coordinated effort between a positive abdominal pressure produced by the abdominal musculature and a
negative intrathoracic pressure produced by the diaphragm muscle. The pressure differential between the abdomen and thorax causes stomach contents to be extruded into the esophagus. In cats, it has actually been demonstrated that there is an actual herniation of the abdominal portion
of the esophagus and also a small part of the stomach into the esophagus located in the thorax. The third part of the process is the actual act of vomiting. This is when the gastric contents are
expelled through the mouth. This final part of the act is characterized by the rapid conversion of negative thoracic pressure to positive pressure. This pressure change is responsible for the rapid propulsion of the stomach contents through the esophagus in an oral direction. Additionally, as
the stomach contents pass through the back of the throat into the oral cavity, the glottis (which is the entrance to the trachea) is tightly shut to prevent aspiration of vomitus by the cat into the trachea and lungs.
Sometimes, a cat will seem to just hang its head and vomit. This act appears to happen without the accompanying triad of signs that usually characterizes a true vomiting attempt by a cat. This “passive” process may actually be a completely different clinical sign, known as regurgitation,
which is medically much different from vomiting and implies a different set of diseases. The act of vomiting should be distinguished from the act of regurgitation, although it is not always easy
to do. It is easy to see that there can be many, many diseases that can affect a cat to cause vomiting. In fact, there are (see Sidebar 2). But, there are a few diseases which may be more common than
others that may cause this problem in our pets. Mary Labato, DVM, ACVIM at Tufts University days that, “cats presenting for vomiting are not uncommon. Often the vomiting is secondary to hyperthyroidism, furballs, or tary allergy/inflammatory bowel disease.” Hairballs are implicated in many cases of vomiting in cats. And they probably do cause a few
cats to vomit either by their presence in the stomach causing irritation to the stomach’s lining or by their ability to block the stomach’s outflow tract or the intestines. Hairballs form due to a unique feature of the feline stomach. Not only do cats groom and ingest hair, but cats lack what
are known as “housekeeping” contractions of the stomach that other species have. These are intermittent propulsive actions of the smooth muscle of the stomach wall that empty the stomach between meals. Without these contractions, the feline stomach can build up hair in the inside. This hair can organize and form a hairball which can then be trapped in the stomach or the intestine to cause a cat to subsequently vomit by blocking the movement of ingesta along the gastrointestinal tract. One problem that may be associated with hair accumulation in the stomach
and hairballs is inhalant allergy. This is a disease called atopy. In people, we know this problem as hayfever. But, in the cat, this problem manifests as a dermatologic condition instead of the respiratory signs people get. The cat with atopy will overgroom and subsequently ingest a large
volume of hair. If a hairball forms, the cat will vomit. And, often, the
vomiting will be the main reason a cat will be brought into the veterinarian. But, a history of the cat’sillness will reveal a patient that overgrooms and is vomiting hairballs. And, this patient will often have large patches
of hair that is missing from its body due to the excessive grooming. But, the frequency of hairballs to cause a cat to vomit is probably overestimated. Other diseases must be considered when a cat vomits other than just hairballs.
A group of diseases called inflammatory bowel diseases (IBD) are a major cause of vomiting inthe cat. This disease complex is characterized by the presence of inflammatory cells of various types in the lining and walls of the gastrointestinal tract (GIT). This inflammation can extend
from the stomach to the colon and involve any or all parts of the GIT. Many times, the liver and pancreas are also involved in the inflammatory process. Because of the presence of the inflammatory cells in many or all organs of the GIT, the function of the intestines, liver, or pancreas can be impaired. Diarrhea, or, more commonly, vomiting can result. One cause of IBD that has been implicated is an allergy to certain food proteins. In fact, in a recent article in the Journal of Veterinary Internal Medicine, up to 40% of cats with diagnosed IBD in Australia had some sort of food allergy as the cause of their illness. Pancreatitis is inflammation of the pancreas and is a common cause of vomiting in the cat as well. The pancreas is an important organ of the GIT that is responsible for the production of chemicals that are essential in the digestion of certain nutrient groups like fats, carbohydrates, and proteins. The pancreas also produces hormones like insulin, important in maintaining blood glucose levels.
As stated above, the pancreas can be involved in IBD, a common GIT disease. But inflammation of the pancreas can occur independent of IBD and can occur for reasons we don’t understand. As some newer techniques of diagnostics become available, pancreatitis is being recognized as a
more important cause of vomiting in the cat. A few years ago, a bacteria known as Helicobacter was implicated as a cause of stomach ulcers
and vomiting in people. A Helicobacter species (Helicobacter felis) was identified in cats’ stomach as well. However, there is controversy as to whether this organism actually causes ulcerations and subsequent vomiting in cats. Says Dr. Labato: "Helicobacter felis as well as H.
pylori have been recovered from the stomachs of cats that come in with vomiting as the reason for the visit. However, it's not certain that it is the cause of the underlying GI disease. Only rarely do we find organisms on endoscopic biopsy." Continuing on, Dr. Labato quotes the
Comparative Gastroenterology Society’s opinion that “Helicobacter may not play an actual role in disease pathogenesis” of vomiting related to damage in the stomach by this microorganisms. So, there remains considerable controversy as to what role exactly (if any) Helicobacter plays in disease production in cats. However, most veterinarians will treat for Helicobacter if it is identified on a biopsy or culture specimens from the stomach. Although it is more commonly associated with dogs than with cats, feline heartworm disease can cause vomiting in cats as well. Heartworms in the cat, like in the dog, are caused by the bite of a
mosquito infected with the heartworm larvae. The adult heartworms reside, among other places, in the right ventricle (chamber) of the heart. Heartworms can cause many problems in the cat. One of the more common clinical signs associated with heartworms is vomiting. Like its caninc counterpart, heartworm disease can very much be a regional phenomenon, based on the geographic territory of the mosquito that transmits it. At Tufts in Boston, Dr. Labato observes that “we see very little feline heartworm disease in this area. Although I do test for heartworm
disease in a vomiting cat, I rarely see a positive result for it.” However in the southeastern United States, regional infections rates in cats can reach as high as 6% in some areas. One interesting thing about feline heartworm disease is that it usually doesn’t involve the GIT at all. The vomiting is thought to be precipitated by the production of chemical from certain types ofinflammatory cells that reside in the lungs that produce these chemicals as a reaction to the presence of the heartworms. Another theory is that vomiting receptors located in the great vessels of the heart may be stimulated by the heartworms and cause vomiting. Because of the multitude of diseases that can cause vomiting in the cat, a work-up to elucidate the cause of vomiting may end up being extensive. Usually, because they are much easier on the patient, non-invasive diagnostics are usually attempted first. The first non-invasive test done is a
good history. The more details and facts that you can tell your veterinarian about the history of your cat’s problem, the better he or she can formulate a diagnostic plan and get to the bottom of your cat’s illness. After the history is taken, a physical examination of your cat may provide
clues to the disease causing vomiting. (Sidebar 1) Blood work of various types may be the next non-invasive tests ordered by your veterinarian.
This may include things like blood counts, multi-systemic chemistry profiles of some of your cat’s internal organ systems, a urinalysis, tests for feline leukemia virus or the feline immunodeficiency (FIV) virus, tests for pancreatic inflammation or intestinal wall disease, or
feline heartworm disease tests. When presented with a vomiting cat, Dr. Labato's workup includes a CBC, biochemistry profile, urinalysis, a standard fecal floatation test for worm eggs and a technique which is more likely to concentrate parasite eggs that may be present in low
numbers (a Baerman technique), and a heartworm test. "In the case of a geriatric cat," she adds, "I will also perform A T4 test to check for high levels of thyroid hormone (hyperthyroidism)." X-rays or ultrasound may follow the blood work. These non-invasive imaging tests help your
veterinarian “see” into areas of the body hidden by the body walls. Both ultrasonography and radiography look for physical changes in the internal structures of the body (things that may be bigger, smaller, or just different than normal) to help find whatever disease entity is causing the
vomiting. A final non-invasive test to help determine the cause of vomiting may be a urinalysis which focuses in specifically on diseases of the urinary tract that may cause vomiting. Endoscopy can be a powerful non-invasive imaging tool for use in the GIT. Although general anesthesia must be used to allow this procedure to be used, it is not considered invasive because a
surgical incision is not made. An endoscope is a long tube that is introduced either through the mouth or anus of the cat that allows direct visualization of the lining and the inside environment of some gastrointestinal tract organs, like the esophagus (food tube that extends from the mouth to the stomach), stomach, the upper small intestine, the colon and lower large intestine. It is possible to see many physical abnormalities in the GIT such as foreign bodies, obstructions,
polyps, tumors, ulcerations, some parasites or inflammation. Additionally, biopsies can be obtained through the endoscope that may help diagnose disease in organs that don’t look abnormal to the eye.
Finally, surgical intervention may be needed. It is not uncommon that efforts at non-invasive diagnostic techniques are non-productive and surgery must be done to either collect samples for diagnostic biopsy or to treat diseases that may be suspected or, in fact, diagnosed by another
modality such as radiography or ultrasonography. This requires general anesthesia and is usually associated with more discomfort for the patient, but they may be necessary to solve the problem of vomiting. Inflammatory bowel disease and GIT tumors in the older cat may both be disease that may be difficult to diagnose without surgical biopsy samples or surgical removal. So, if your cat vomits, it may be a simple problem such as hairballs or dietary indiscretions, or it may be more complicated. Not all cats that vomit need an extensive and exhaustive work-up of
vomiting is thought to be precipitated by the production of chemical from certain types of inflammatory cells that reside in the lungs that produce these chemicals as a reaction to the presence of the heartworms. Another theory is that vomiting receptors located in the great vessels of the heart may be stimulated by the heartworms and cause vomiting. Because of the multitude of diseases that can cause vomiting in the cat, a work-up to elucidate the cause of vomiting may end up being extensive. Usually, because they are much easier on the patient, non-invasive diagnostics are usually attempted first. The first non-invasive test done is a good history. The more details and facts that you can tell your veterinarian about the history of your cat’s problem, the better he or she can formulate a diagnostic plan and get to the bottom of your cat’s illness. After the history is taken, a physical examination of your cat may provide
clues to the disease causing vomiting. (Sidebar 1) Blood work of various types may be the next non-invasive tests ordered by your veterinarian.
This may include things like blood counts, multi-systemic chemistry profiles of some of your cat’s internal organ systems, a urinalysis, tests for feline leukemia virus or the feline immunodeficiency (FIV) virus, tests for pancreatic inflammation or intestinal wall disease, or feline heartworm disease tests. When presented with a vomiting cat, Dr. Labato's workup
includes a CBC, biochemistry profile, urinalysis, a standard fecal floatation test for worm eggs and a technique which is more likely to concentrate parasite eggs that may be present in low numbers (a Baerman technique), and a heartworm test. "In the case of a geriatric cat," she adds,
"I will also perform A T4 test to check for high levels of thyroid hormone (hyperthyroidism)." X-rays or ultrasound may follow the blood work. These non-invasive imaging tests help your veterinarian “see” into areas of the body hidden by the body walls. Both ultrasonography and radiography look for physical changes in the internal structures of the body (things that may be bigger, smaller, or just different than normal) to help find whatever disease entity is causing the vomiting. A final non-invasive test to help determine the cause of vomiting may be a urinalysis which focuses in specifically on diseases of the urinary tract that may cause vomiting.
Endoscopy can be a powerful non-invasive imaging tool for use in the GIT. Although general anesthesia must be used to allow this procedure to be used, it is not considered invasive because a surgical incision is not made. An endoscope is a long tube that is introduced either through the
mouth or anus of the cat that allows direct visualization of the lining and the inside environment of some gastrointestinal tract organs, like the esophagus (food tube that extends from the mouth to the stomach), stomach, the upper small intestine, the colon and lower large intestine. It is possible to see many physical abnormalities in the GIT such as foreign bodies, obstructions, polyps, tumors, ulcerations, some parasites or inflammation. Additionally, biopsies can be obtained through the endoscope that may help diagnose disease in organs that don’t look
abnormal to the eye. Finally, surgical intervention may be needed. It is not uncommon that efforts at non-invasive diagnostic techniques are non-productive and surgery must be done to either collect samples for
diagnostic biopsy or to treat diseases that may be suspected or, in fact, diagnosed by another modality such as radiography or ultrasonography. This requires general anesthesia and is usually associated with more discomfort for the patient, but they may be necessary to solve the problem
of vomiting. Inflammatory bowel disease and GIT tumors in the older cat may both be disease that may be difficult to diagnose without surgical biopsy samples or surgical removal. So, if your cat vomits, it may be a simple problem such as hairballs or dietary indiscretions, or it
may be more complicated. Not all cats that vomit need an extensive and exhaustive work-up of vomiting is thought to be precipitated by the production of chemical from certain types of inflammatory cells that reside in the lungs that produce these chemicals as a reaction to the
presence of the heartworms. Another theory is that vomiting receptors located in the great vessels of the heart may be stimulated by the heartworms and cause vomiting. Because of the multitude of diseases that can cause vomiting in the cat, a work-up to elucidate the
cause of vomiting may end up being extensive. Usually, because they are much easier on the patient, non-invasive diagnostics are usually attempted first. The first non-invasive test done is a good history. The more details and facts that you can tell your veterinarian about the history of
your cat’s problem, the better he or she can formulate a diagnostic plan and get to the bottom of your cat’s illness. After the history is taken, a physical examination of your cat may provide clues to the disease causing vomiting. (Sidebar 1) Blood work of various types may be the next non-invasive tests ordered by your veterinarian. This may include things like blood counts, multi-systemic chemistry profiles of some of your
cat’s internal organ systems, a urinalysis, tests for feline leukemia virus or the feline immunodeficiency (FIV) virus, tests for pancreatic inflammation or intestinal wall disease, or feline heartworm disease tests. When presented with a vomiting cat, Dr. Labato's workup
includes a CBC, biochemistry profile, urinalysis, a standard fecal floatation test for worm eggs and a technique which is more likely to concentrate parasite eggs that may be present in low numbers (a Baerman technique), and a heartworm test. "In the case of a geriatric cat," she adds,
"I will also perform A T4 test to check for high levels of thyroid hormone (hyperthyroidism)." X-rays or ultrasound may follow the blood work. These non-invasive imaging tests help your veterinarian “see” into areas of the body hidden by the body walls. Both ultrasonography and radiography look for physical changes in the internal structures of the body (things that may be bigger, smaller, or just different than normal) to help find whatever disease entity is causing the vomiting. A final non-invasive test to help determine the cause of vomiting may be a urinalysis
which focuses in specifically on diseases of the urinary tract that may cause vomiting. Endoscopy can be a powerful non-invasive imaging tool for use in the GIT. Although general anesthesia must be used to allow this procedure to be used, it is not considered invasive because a
surgical incision is not made. An endoscope is a long tube that is introduced either through the mouth or anus of the cat that allows direct visualization of the lining and the inside environment of some gastrointestinal tract organs, like the esophagus (food tube that extends from the mouth to the stomach), stomach, the upper small intestine, the colon and lower large intestine. It is possible to see many physical abnormalities in the GIT such as foreign bodies, obstructions,
polyps, tumors, ulcerations, some parasites or inflammation. Additionally, biopsies can be obtained through the endoscope that may help diagnose disease in organs that don’t look abnormal to the eye.
Finally, surgical intervention may be needed. It is not uncommon that efforts at non-invasive diagnostic techniques are non-productive and surgery must be done to either collect samples for diagnostic biopsy or to treat diseases that may be suspected or, in fact, diagnosed by another
modality such as radiography or ultrasonography. This requires general anesthesia and is usually associated with more discomfort for the patient, but they may be necessary to solve the problem of vomiting. Inflammatory bowel disease and GIT tumors in the older cat may both be disease that may be difficult to diagnose without surgical biopsy samples or surgical removal. So, if your cat vomits, it may be a simple problem such as hairballs or dietary indiscretions, or it may be more complicated. Not all cats that vomit need an extensive and exhaustive work-up of
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lynnhaz · Jun 27, 2004

hi vene. thank you for responding and thank you for finding such a detailed article.

i notified dr. carey who knows max from the clinic. she sees him when dr. grant is unavailable. she is a fantastic vet. but, my clinic is closed on saturday. so, i took him to my old vets which i never really liked....but!!! they have the best vet there now. he was great. i asked for xrays to rule out an obstruction. they did xrays and barrium...didnt see anything in there to cause concern. so, i am really relieved.

the two meds he is on, he has really taken all along. they just interchange them every two weeks. i really trust the docs working with him. he is tired now...got iv subcutaneous fluids today. i am sure he is just tired from everything, since it has been going on for so long. i will watch him closely over the weekend, then see dr. grant on monday. he hasnt vomited since last night, thank goodness.

this has really taken its toll...i am really tired...i just worry alot for him.

vene · Jun 27, 2004

No vomiting and no obstruction, that's great news! Get some rest and worry about Max after you get your much needed Z's. Rene sends Max extra hugs and kisses and hopes he gets well soon. :kiss_heart:

nern · Jun 27, 2004

I'm glad to hear that there was no obstruction and I'm sorry you were so worried. Hope he is feeling better soon.

lynnhaz · Jun 27, 2004

he is better today. but....a couple things (surprise, surprise :| )

first, he is still not really eating anything. :cry: he ate a few bites of a canned food that i had on hand...IVD formula. he doesnt want to eat his regular food. he doesnt want to eat the zd.

then...i gave him his metronidazole tonight...he just started it yesterday. the vet increased the dose, so he can now taste the bitterness and it makes him foam terribly at the mouth. (it is liquid form and mixed with chicken broth). he started foaming at the mouth from the bitterness of the med, then threw it up all over. :mrgreen: i suspect what happened is that he was foaming so bad, he probably tripped his gag reflex.

i have left my vet (the specialist in bacteriology) a message about the food and the metronidazole. it is the weekend. it is such a stressor. thank you for the support. it means alot to me right now.

vene · Jun 27, 2004

At least Max is eating a little bit and you knew what the vomit was. There's got to be a better way of giving our little one meds. They are so smart even disguising the meds doesn't help. My Pooky used to foam at the mouth and spit out his meds too. What's the IVD formula?

lynnhaz · Jun 28, 2004

ivd is one of the superior brands...it is a development formula for kittens that you get at veterinarians. it comes in canned and dry. but the vet called back last night and told me that he did not want me to push food on him. take all food away last night and this am. i didnt like that idea but i have done it. :roll: max is very energetic this am, playing as usual. he just knocked a lamp down :x and is running around like a crazy man. i havent fed him yet. i have a little fear that he still wont eat. plus i dont th9in0k he
ikesthat0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000999999. oops...that was max....so as i was saying, i dont think he likes that hypoallergenic diet. but he didnt really like anything yesterday. so we will see. at least he is back to his old self.

the vet also wanted me to stop his metronidazole. i think he just cant tolerate it in liquid, with the increased dose. what they do is crush up pills and mix it with chicken broth. now with the increased strength, they crush up more pills which makes the liquid grainy and he starts foaming. he looked like a rabid cat....foam everywhere. gunky... :mrgreen: (funky, yucky, and gross = gunky)

lynnhaz · Jun 28, 2004

he is out in the kitchen crunching away. the vet wanted me to wait to feed him until this afternoon. i couldnt do it...he seemed hungry. so, he is eating, thank God. doesnt want the zd...but is eating his regular chicken soup food. so i guess we will have to try a different hypoallergenic diet. here we go again............... :shock:

vene · Jun 28, 2004

Great news! I'm so happy to hear that Max is back to his old self and eating again. I don't think cats like to have their favorite foods messed around with. Did he break your lamp or anything else? :mrgreen:

lynnhaz · Jun 28, 2004

well...as with many things...i have to let go of my expectations that he wont ruin stuff from time to time. the lamp has a paper shade...that is probably why he likes it. so...i guess it comes down to this: i am happier that he is energetic and back to his old self, so i would rather sacrifice the lamp than have him lethargic and sick not playing with anything. small price to pay. :roll:

vene...thanks for being so thoughtful and interested...it really means alot to me. you are so supportive...it is so appreciated.

lunaguy · Jun 28, 2004

lynnhaz, sorry to hear about all that you and Max just went through, and happy to hear that it is having a happy ending. Here's hoping that Max will continue to do well! Good luck to you both.

vene · Jun 28, 2004

:wink:

vene · Jun 30, 2004

Lynn it's my turn to be scared. Milo just vomited several times in the past half hour. It's yellow liquid. I'm going to have to read that article on vomiting very carefully now. I hope all he has is just a viral infection. He's been light weight lately and I'm thinking it's because he goes out and excercises and is eating premium foods. I'm tempted to take him to the vet right now. I'll do a little more research before I do.

lynnhaz · Jun 30, 2004

oh vene...i know that fear...constantly watching them to see if they are okay, following them around the house, making sure they eat, dont throw up after eating, and the ball of fear in the pit of the stomach feeling.

i am sure milo is okay...but keep us posted...i will say a prayer.

check your pm post too

fridaylove · Jun 30, 2004

Glad to hear that Max is feeling better right now.

lynnhaz · Jun 30, 2004

thank you fridaylove. he is a chow hound today :shock:

vene · Jun 30, 2004

Milo seems to be ok right now. He's not puking anymore and is eating like crazy. I'm still a little worried. Maybe he ate something bad outside.

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