I agree, we are not debating whether this is good or bad for the breed and if its wrong. I think everyone in this post agrees that dog fighting is wrong and not positive for the breed. Its true that its what people think of when they hear Pit Bull, mean guard/attack dog, vicious fighting dog, ect. Anything that I said was positive, great for the breed, ect was what MyPetTherapyDog does, always been awesome with this breed and showing what they are really about. So you think you are safe then? You have a false sense of security that since your dog are well cared for and you don't do anything wrong you won't ever have problems? No one has accused you of bad treatment or said you do those things, that is just my point, if they have convicted innocent people before of dog fighting why not again? If they have investigated many, many people for no real reason why do you think it won't happen? I'm not really sure about that, there have been many dog fighting bust nationalwide and several high profile cases in the last few years and what the majority of the outcome is that it further cements the idea in peoples heads that Pit Bulls are crazy fighting machines and only people who want a mean or fighting dog would own them. I for one am a "Pit Bull Advocate" but I am not so naive as to think its just the owner. How a dog behaves depends on not just raising properly, it depends on proper breeding and inherent temperament. Telling people that dogs with bad owners are only mean can have bad consequences. They may foolishly believe that if you raise it right it will have a great temperament and thats not always the case, they may miss signs that are leading up to something bad. A dogs breeding and raising goes into making that dog, and a lot of traits get passed on when it comes to temperament, behavior and personality. I guess I haven't had the same experiences you have had. When they are saying "There you go, more dangerous dogs, I hope they put them all down" or when they tell my friend "I told you they were only good for killing" or when a vet practically interrogates you because you bring a Pit Bull and says "Why do you own these dogs?" "All they are good for is fighting and killing kids" Jaw dropping moment there. Really seems like they have been looking little at the state the dogs are in and more at how they are vicious by nature and good for nothing. Well one guy did tell me they are good for putting bullet into and thats all they are good for and if he sees a dog like that (which I'm assuming Pit Bull type so he could be killing other breeds) he shoots it. I even know people who have had friends/family members call them on the phone and ask if they heard about the bust and it just proves how bad PIT BULLS are not the person fighting them. Its crazy how that works, they don't take any heat or what!? Maybe you've had better experiences and if thats the case I'm very glad that some people realize its not the dogs fault that people fight them and it doesn't make them mean. Just because the dog has scars doesn't mean that the owner isn't caring. These baseless ideas have even spread to APBTs owners! How sad. Sometimes scars can take a long time to heal up and sometimes they might never go away. This shouldn't be taken out on the owner as its its there fault. With proper care it still takes time. This is a female I had with some pretty noticeable spots and then even when it healed white hairs grew back which is noticeable on a black dog. Another one of my females (one in my avatar) has a scar on her side that never went away thats she had since she was young, so its been years. If it were another breed, big deal right? I saw a lab who had a lot of scars on his face from his kennel and messing up his muzzle so there is a lot of missing hair and marks, I bet no one thinks thats a fighting dog. On the other hand my red nose male has a same problem and someone said he was "all scarred up" and "not cared for" I can see this dog has standing water and appears to be underweight. So now that makes some one a dog fighter? I think they would be guilty of neglect, but if it was another breed they wouldn't say the person was fighting the dogs. I've seen skinny Pit Bulls that were not fighting dogs at all. As far as the case, he is probably guilty with what they say they have against him. Thats not the point here though. Maybe you're missing the point then? The point is that innocent people can be investigated and charged, they can lose their dogs. That PETA wants the extinction of all Pit Bulls and wants to liberate all dogs (means no pets or working dogs). That many members of the Humane Society and ASPCA are against Pit Bulls and Pit Bull ownership, there are many out there too that don't mind Pit Bulls but so many have negative things to say about them and again jump on the dog fighting thing. One here said they picked up a "fighting dog" because they got a stray skinny pit bull, if it had been another breed it'd be considered a stray dog that couldn't find much to eat. But a young Pit Bull underweight, lose fighting dog, right. :roll: A lot of people don't realize it, but you'd think at least the Pit Bull people would stick together and be against it. If you say again one things equals another then you're pretty much on their side with it and are accusing innocent people. X amount of dogs = dog fighter, scarred up dogs = dog fighter. Basically like their list and reason why they have harassed to many innocent people and why so many people think Pit Bull owners are dog fighters (its because of reasons like that). They've been pumped with the info if you see this thats a dog fighter and people tend to be weak minded and not find out for themselves. Its not just about Pit Bulls and Sara is right, they are banning a lot of breeds and adding them to the dangerous dog list until they finally decide its not safe to own any breed. There are over 30 breeds that have been banned throughout the US including rare and less common breeds like Ca De Bou, Cane Corsos, Presa Carnios, Dogo Argentino, Tosa Inu, Boerboel, Scottish Deerhound, Fila, Kuvaz, to name a few. At least one place in Iowa has BSL against on many breeds yet again a few would be Estrela Mountain Dog, Anotolian Shepherd, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, Akbash, Komondor, Kangel Dog, Leonberger, Neo, Great Pryenese, Borzio, Otterhound and a number of others. Many breeds are under the attack now. We should all be pulling together to stop it from further spreading and destroying innocent dogs. We should be against false accusations, media hype, ignorance, and ban together instead of being blind to the possibilities that are out there. I'm perplexed that this type of thought has spread to Pit Bull owners themselves, its so easy for them to put ideas out there and others just follow them. This isn't about Vick, if he's guilty he should hopefully get what he deserves. That doesn't mean we need to start red flagging people who own Pit Bulls and saying they meet the dog fighting criteria.