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Discussion in 'Fish and Aquarium - all types' started by Trickster, Aug 4, 2005.

  1. Trickster

    Trickster New Member

    well, the cory tht was so badly beatup (ripped off whiskers, nipped fins and bitten body), has passed away, im betting from starvation, not being able to find foood without whiskers :( i realy feel sorry for him specialy cuz starving to death is so horrible.

    Im still not sure if it was the convict or tetra, yea everyone told me the convict would starting attacking everything in my tank, but for the 1st time it attacked my gourami (realy pulled a number on the dorsal fin)

    It only attacked the cory cuz it realy pissed her off, at night the cory would buzz around the tank at 20mph, driving the con insane.
    And it only attack the gourami cuz it wants to be the queen of the tank, and the gourami is much bigger, (territorial threat). I never see her show any agression to the smaller fish (even sits beside them).

    So anyway im moving every fish (except convict and making 20 a dwarf cichlid tank, attempting a african and american mix) into a 10g (when i buy 1). But getting rid of the gourami (lfs).
  2. Fish Addict

    Fish Addict New Member

    sorry to tell you this but the only fish that is going to be left in that tank is your con this just the beginning
  3. Trickster

    Trickster New Member

    i know that, thats why im moving the other fish into a 10g, dint u read?
  4. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    Wait. You want to put dwarf cichlids or africans in the same 20 as the con?

  5. red devil

    red devil New Member

    "Im still not sure if it was the convict or tetra" are you serious dont you know anything about what fish are compatible with others if you put a convict in with community fish besides ones like plecos hes going to rip everything to shreds a convict is part of the cichlid family and should only be kept with larger fish or fissh of the same size but with the same level of aggresivness like a jewel fish and like t_chelle pointed out your going to put african or dwarf cichlids he will kill all of those and the minimum size tank for a convict is 15 gallons so i dont know how you expect to fit them why dont you doo a little more reaserch bfore buying all sorts of fish.
  6. Trickster

    Trickster New Member

    I knew very well about every aggressive nature of all my fish and indeed did do research, the convict has never shown any sign of aggresion twards any fish (and i just recently found out the gouramis top fin wasnt dmg, he was just keeping it in a weird position that made it look like tht, probly just stressed from the water change)

    I know min tank size is 20 gal (not 15, 15 maybe for a small 4" female, but a full 6" male needs atleast a 20.) for a convict, so if you actually READ the post you would notice i said im not moving the convict into a 10!

    I specificly bought a female convict and closely monitoured her in the tank for the 1st few days, and not once has she hurt anything yet, all plain and simple i got a mellow convict. I was taking the chance of adding the convict, if it did show aggression i would return it to the lfs! But still to be on the safe side i am putting the convict with only other cichlids in my 20! I dont want my communitys to be hurt so they are being put into a new 10 gallon when i move! Sometimes i really question the % of members on this site that can read. (im not a fish noob, i know wut im doing, i do do research, and whenever i do try mixing aggressive and non-aggressive fish i take the precautions needed to make sure it turns out all ok.

    And to answer t_chelle, A convict is a south american cichlid, and i am adding in another american cichlid and 1 or 2 dwarf african cichlids (bout 3-4 inches each) American and african cichlids shouldnt be mixed cuz africans are more aggressive then americans which leads to problems, but thats why my americans are almost x2 the size of the africans.

    in the end i will have a 55 gallon, ill buy a baby oscar and see how my convict does with it, and if they alrite they stay in 55, if fighting, the convict goes in 20, and i find other more equal sized fish for the 55)
  7. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    I think you're setting yourself up for more dead fish.

  8. Trickster

    Trickster New Member

    o.k, well.... thanks for your conclusion, but can you back-up your statement???
  9. red devil

    red devil New Member

    I did READ your post it doesnt matter if your moving him into a 10 gallon or not which is by the way to small for all those community fish but the problem is why did you put him in the 20 gallon in the first place it doesnt matter if the fish didnt show aggresion for little while but he will become aggresive no matter how he acted before because thats just the way convicts are and t_chelle doesnt need to back up her statement because she is rite you say your not a fish newb but you sure seem like it
  10. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    Um . . . Let's see, you're putting a convict, which is a highly aggressive fish capable of killing fish 3 & 4 times their size (and yours already has a history of attacking and killing fish) in with a dwarf chichlid. A very small, relatively peaceful fish. That's like putting a house cat in with a hyenna.

    Not to mention the fact that a 20 gallon won't be large enough to house all those fish. So if they don't kill eachother, the water quality will.

  11. Fish Addict

    Fish Addict New Member

    i don't know how many time we here at auspet have helped you and you still do the wrong thing in the end and then you snap at us because you know were right but as a member that tries his best i would recommend that do you don't mixed african's and n/a cichlids you'll just end up killing more fish
  12. kc5gvn

    kc5gvn New Member

    Besides the aggression factor, the water requirements for African Cichlids is vastly different than those for South American Cichlids. Trying to stabalize in between just doesn't work. When you get close to good conditions for the South Americans you will have health problems with the Africans. When you get close to good conditions for the Africans you will have health problems with the South Americans. The problems are due to the requirements of the fish and the weakened immune system by not being close to those requirements.
  13. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    Oh, also, african mbuna (what's most often available) are herbivores while cons and other NW cichlids are omnivores. If you cater to the diets of the mbuna, the NW cichlids will suffer from malnutrition. If you cater to the dietary needs fo the NW cichlids, the mbuna will get bloat and die from too much protein.

  14. Trickster

    Trickster New Member

    Went to my lfs, found some beautiful south american cichlids, a pure south american tank is underway, Community fish have been relocated and looking happy. (and whowever said my community fish cant go in 10 gallon knows nothing about basic fish.....*Cough cough red devil cough cough* 2 mollys, a betta and a cory are 100% fine in a 10 gallon as a oscar would be in a 120 gallon.)

    I added another convict (white female convict), the 2 of em seem to be getting along, both of them follow eachother everywhere. The new convict is about 1cm bigger then my classic stripe. The white only cost 99cents cuz they dint have it priced yet, and i just gave them 2 swordtails for $1 credit which was used for the convict. Everything is working out great, i got a new backround, new better lighting, better airstone and some new high quality food. a canister 1/10 the size of the food i was feeding before, cost the same amount as the big canister. Sera vipan or some wut spelling of it.

    Now before people start yelling at me for putting 2 convicts in and future fish.... do research. Most convict dont get their full potential of 6" male or 5" female. Instead most convicts, especially females commonly stay at 3". So 2, 3" fish aien't nothing critical. If one does exceed 3" (which rarely happens) then its still fine.

    O and pretty much the redecoration of my tank is complete, i might get pictures. And fish addict, i dont know where u get off at saying that! I cant recall you people trying to help me but then me defying wut u say and F***ing it all up. You all said i shouldnt get a convict, and it all turned out for the better, everyone is happy, specially me since i finally got my fav types of fish.
    Recall 1 moment, of where i dint listen to you guys.
    The tetra is the one that took out the cory, and no one ever expressed an opinion of my tetra.

    Only reason i was gonna mix my african and americans cuz my lfs (which are infact trusted people), they said it should be okay, cosidering all of the cichlids have are ALL fed the same diet, and all look healthy.

    But too keep it more natural, i will only put americans, because finally they got some insock tht i can have, before all they had were: Green terrors, bloodparrots, convicts, salvinis, and sevrums. They got some new things that are fine.
  15. red devil

    red devil New Member

    First of all you had more community fish listed then that and second a tetra will not take out a cory so why dotn you just shutup and listen to people before you start cursing if you even had half a brain you would know that it was the convict that killed teh cory not the tetra you said his glls were ripped off and everything a tetra does not rip gills off of fish convicts do.
  16. Fish Addict

    Fish Addict New Member

    i notice you changed your name :roll: trying to hide what alot of us told you not to do i am with rob (red devil) on this one
  17. Trickster

    Trickster New Member

    Changed my name? you mean my signature? Its not that im hiding anything at all, i told you in my post about how everything was changed, the only fish still in the same tank is the convict, and i did not want to rewrite all tht stuff for no reason since no one gives a dam. The gill wasnt "Ripped off", the outter tissue was damage and turned pink, so at 1st i thought it was ripped off. I had seen my tetra attack my cory MANY times before, but i never worried about it since a cory is a armoured catfish. So... wouldnt it make sence tht the fish tht always attacks the cory, would be the one tht hurt the cory? i have more then half a brain....... bout 3/4 :? .

    I made the whole thread hoping maybe just to hear a couple of "Sorry to hear tht" replys and look was it has turned into. This is barely even about gimpy anymore. If my tank was working fine, and had future plans to have the convict moved to a bigger tank, before aggression started, y did everyone have to start arguing? We read these things, reply, then forget, if we did remember past posts you would have recalled me saying that the convict is going to be moved into a bigger tank before it reaches 3 inches.

    And why dont you people closely read my posts before responding!
    I was hoping Fish addict could have at least noticed tht i did write tht every fish was moved, which would kinda explain why the pretty magical list tht based your whole argument has magicaly vanished.
  18. red devil

    red devil New Member

    ok i dont want to argue anymore so this is my last post the gill turning pink sounds like a paracite and when i had a gill paracite on one of my convicts the flesh looked damaged to and you started this post to hear im sorry for you if your really looking for attention dont do it on a fish chatting website when i tell storys of my fish dying i do it to intrest people and in memory of my fish not to hear people say im sorry for you.
  19. kc5gvn

    kc5gvn New Member

    While debate is healthy and stimulates thought, outright argueing, derogatory remarks, and name calling don't benefit anyone. Anymore of those type posts will be deleted and the thread locked.

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