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Discussion in 'Fish and Aquarium - all types' started by Dennis, Jul 15, 2004.

  1. Dennis

    Dennis New Member

    Alright, so i have seen that some of you like to use sand instead of rocks.

    I have a few questions reguarding that.

    #1. Can i use any sand, like from sand bags or do i have to use specific sand

    #2. Will it affect any of my fish? (i.e. goldfish, pleco's, catfish)

    #3. Does it make the tank harder to clean?

    #4. What if i decide to go back to rocks, Is it hard to remove?
  2. OneWolvesDream

    OneWolvesDream New Member

    umm i cant say all of them but here is a try, 1: a lot of ppl here have said you can but i would still buy the sand frm a lfs. 2: ummm do you have goldfish with tropical fish!?! if so bad idea goldfish is coldwater not tropical, cleaning isng much of a diff. just use the piton and lightly run over the sand. and im not to sure about the changing to gravel after. it will depend on what you say is hard to change.
  3. Fish Addict

    Fish Addict New Member

    1 Yes you can use anysand just make sure you clean it good
    2 it shouldn't
    3 not really
    4 nope just stake it out like gravel
  4. bloodpain

    bloodpain New Member

    well, no matter what type you use, its better if you use those thats bought from your LFS. For rocks, it may cause alkaline water. Best of luck.
  5. needlefish

    needlefish New Member

    my bro got sand and it was SW sand. so u have to be careful what kind of sand u have. and yeah i think sand is hard to remove if u were going to switch back to rocks.
  6. OneWolvesDream

    OneWolvesDream New Member

    wahoo, my answers where close. lol.
  7. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    #1 - Don't use marine/saltwater sand. The most common types of sand people use are playsand (for kid's sand boxes) and pool filter sand. You can also use tube sand (for weighing down trucks in the winter). It's cheaper than playsand, but it's a lot dirtier so it will take a lot longer to rinse.

    #2 - Nope, it should be fine. I have it in all my tanks and don't have any problems. In fact, it's actually better for fish like cory cats and kulie loaches.

    #3 - Both sand & gravel have their pros & cons for cleaning. With gravel, it's difficult to get all the waste. With sand, all the waste sits on top so it's easer to get to. But sand does get sucked up fairly easily (you'd have to leave the siphon in one place for quite a while to remove a significant amount of sand, though). And you have to make sure to stir the sand a little every couple of weeks to prevent anaerobic pockets & hydrogen sulfide gas from forming.

    #4 - The only time I've tried to remove sand was when my 10 gallon sprung a leak. The majority of the sand was easy to just scoop out. If you wanted to get every last grain out, you'd probably have to use a shop vac. But even if you left a little sand i there, it would get covered up by the gravel and would probably eventually get sucked out when you vacuumed the gravel. And I wouldn't recommend switching from sand to gravel with the fish still in the tank.

  8. OneWolvesDream

    OneWolvesDream New Member

    interesting there has been lots of debate on what sand is best. so what one should we really use?
  9. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    I have play sand in my 55, pool filter sand in my 10 & 20, and tube sand in my 75. All of my fish are doing perfectly fine.

  10. OneWolvesDream

    OneWolvesDream New Member

    I have heard bad things about play sand though. like the salt, chemicals, maybe metals and even things that could have slipped in there and where missed when cleaning the sand.
  11. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    I can probably think of at least 20 other people that use play sand in their tanks and their fish are also fine.

  12. tina1

    tina1 New Member

    So far my tank with sand is doing ok. Going through a mini cycle but that's to be expected really. I really like the look and the price is sooooo much better. $2.92 for a 50 lb bag instead of $20 for a 15lb bag of good gravel at the lfs. I'll take that deal any day!
  13. OneWolvesDream

    OneWolvesDream New Member

    oh, ok. I am getting a 10 gal in the next two weeks :eek: and i am going to use sand on that one. So here are a few questions:
    1: how much sand do i put in?(inches)
    2: How do i clean the sand when i first buy it?
    3: Is it safe for all freshwater fish? (platy mainly)

  14. tina1

    tina1 New Member

  15. OneWolvesDream

    OneWolvesDream New Member

    ok... whats that about. lol.
  16. tina1

    tina1 New Member

    I replied funky sorry. The italics are my responses.
  17. OneWolvesDream

    OneWolvesDream New Member

    ooo, sorry i usually dnt read my quotes. lol.
  18. Mwm

    Mwm New Member

    I use sand in my 5g guppy tank i would have used it in my 20g if i had known about it then, I used just normal sanitized play sand its really cheap and as long as you give it a good wash it doesnt cloud 8)
  19. OneWolvesDream

    OneWolvesDream New Member

    thanks for all the help everyone!
  20. t_chelle16

    t_chelle16 New Member

    IIRC, this is the formula for determining how many lbs of sand you need (measurements in inches)

    (length x width x depth of sand) / 25 = lbs of sand


    (20 x 10 x 1) / 25 = 8 lbs of sand


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