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Discussion in 'Dogs - all breeds / types' started by honeybears, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. DeLaUK

    DeLaUK New Member

    Sorry I missed your question :( Im sure that in human hospitals they can find out with blood tests before any symptoms show, weve had people come in (complete with the dead snake) saying their pet had been bitten and there have been barely visible marks in some cases but no symptoms. The only thing weve done at the emergency clinic I worked at in these cases is a CBC. I cant find anything about this in any vet manuals and Ive asked other vets that say this is not a sign one way or the other but an older vet did CBC's on many snakebites or suspected snake bite victims and I have to say that his theory proved right every time, every dog that we tested, the ones that either already had symptoms or later developed them the CBC on the Vet Test machine that we used always gave us a 'bad reading' we got no counts at all, the ones that were tested that did not show any symptoms either at the time or later we would get a reading on everything, WBC, PCV, etc.
    That said there are other reasons why you can get a bad reading on a blood sample, anything from failure with the machine, another medical problem, a bad blood sample, blood not transferred correctly into the tubes. But for the amount of tests that we did while working with that particular vet at the very least it created some questioning for us (techs) and had another vet there looking into it. I dont know whats happened since last year as Im no longer there, neither is the older vet.
    Ive seen reports that say the effects from a snakebite can take as long as 24 hours to show and I only have the clients word to go with that as none of my dogs, have ever been bitten but if the clients are being honest, and I have no reason to doubt them it can take as little as an hour or so before the symptoms show as was the case with the Pit Bull I memtioned earlier.
    Chances are if its a baby snake its more likely to contain venom due to inexperience on their part. Some adults will hit with a dry strike as a warning when disturbed.
    Ive also heard reports (Loma Linda bite victims symptoms), that there is a question of whether the vipers and pit vipers are mutating somehow, a victim that caught the snake that bit him...he had symptoms from both types but only bitten by one.
     
  2. coppersmom

    coppersmom New Member

    Rattlesnake bites (the kind around here anyways) increase coagulation results--in humans. We also have cottonmouths which effect the patient neurologically...so probably no abnormal blood results there.

    I love the show Venom ER and I saw that one about the pit vipers mutating. The patient swore he was bit by one kind and the results showed another kind. That's just great.
     
  3. DeLaUK

    DeLaUK New Member

    The same episode by the sound of it, i havent heard anything further on that, the mutation.
    The tests we did, like I said it was more of an in-house obsevation, could have been co-incidental although what we saw was 100% 'pattern', Ive never been able to find anything to confirm it....and Ive looked. :shock: A lot. I know there are other tests that can be done but in an animal ER, at least in the area I was in there was never the opportunity, something I would have liked to have got into more though.
     
  4. Samsintentions

    Samsintentions New Member

    I've also heard of the butter and milk method.... also charcoal. Like burned toast until its completely black charred...

    We have several different species of venomus snakes. We have Tember rattlers, Diamondbacks, copperheads, cottonmouths, water moccasins, and a few others..

    A friend of mine caught a 4ft timber rattler, and kept it a while, and turned it over to the hospital to milk for venom to make the anti venom...

    I'm deathly and I mean EXTREMELY scared of snakes...whatever is in my way, I'll break through it to get away... so I know how you feel.
    But it seems that ever since I got Garfield and Boots I haven't seen a snake since.
     
  5. coppersmom

    coppersmom New Member

    I heard that about cats keeping snakes away. That's why I'm in no hurry to chase off my neighbor's cats. But I do wish they would stop using my flower beds as a litterbox. I look out the window and both weenie dogs are rolling merrily in the pinestraw....grrrrr.
     
  6. Samsintentions

    Samsintentions New Member

    I've also heard o fusing Cedar chips in your flower beds and around your property to keep snakes away. My Grandmother has always put cedar around her yard and rarely has snakes.
     
  7. lil96

    lil96 New Member

    Once when I lived in a tent in the woods, that was built on a platform, I saw a snake. My dog, Sentry (not little ole wimpy luther) stared it down until it slithered away (I was claling her to me the whole time, but she wouldn't move). So anyway someone told me to put Lime around the base of the platform, I didn't see anymore snakes, but every night I would put lime around my tent!
     

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