Thats just what I was thinking, Izzy looks like she has some AmStaff in her and is very gorgeous. I doubt Bronx we'lll get that big (120lbs) as Whopper was half Bull Mastiff and they get to be 140lbs. The bad thing is larger dogs live a shorter lifespan. Chevy is about 7-8 years old and now he can't really pull worth crap now where I was watching some 8-9yrs old 30-40lbs dogs pull just as they did when they were young. They'll probably live longer lives while Chevy may very well die in 2-3yrs since he's going "down hill" now. Another thing is bringing in larger breeds is whats been adding and giving these dogs hip dysplasia and inverted eye lids. Bandogs no matter if they are recognized bandogs are registered as pure APBT usually have more health problems. Larger dogs of any breed have shorter life spans. I don't understand owning something that isn't a Pit and doesn't look like a Pit if you want a Pit? Her grandsire doesn't have that much mastiff in him but is still bigger then the average APBT, they just didn't keep breeding mastiff and mastiff qualities in. But he is a nice looking dog, he doesn't look like a mastiff, doesn't have large dewlaps or anything. I'll post more of his offspring, they range in size from 45-80lbs. The one I posted is double bred off him (@ 58lbs). A few of the outcrossed ones are actually BIGGER, and the dam was about 50lbs. I'll upload n post the pics later. They keep growing past 1 year but he will probably fall in about that weight I'd guess. Bigger dogs grow longer also.