Yeah I don't really buy the whole test breeding thing, Blackwell must have some real problems. Shady I'm sure. Getting the info about whether this DDBxAB was Whopper's sire. About the DNA though, will this help prove anything? I'm just wondering. Were Whopper's "parents" ever DNA'd? That would be the only way to prove he has hung papers. People are trying to do away with the big dogs and bandogs and steps are being taken, very slowly. I'm wondering if we will see a total change in 10 or 20yrs. This was a big issue at the convention last year, as it usually would be every year, but most the time they won't discuss it and people are silenced. Now after all this time people are finally taking it seriously. The BBxAPBT don't sound like something I'd be interested in. I'd just want a big, house pet type dog. That cross definatly isn't something I want and its smart not to sell them to the general public. A lot of people around here knew Eddington and he is the one who trained Chevy for weight pull. He also had purebred APBTs, great little dogs.